slowing and speeding time

yeah, we'v all been there, sitting looking at the clock waiting to get out of school or work but the clock just wont move! it seems so slow, but then when you are doing somthing you like to do, time just wont wait for you...

so, my question is, would it be possible to somehow "train" the brain to speed and slow "time"? not like ooh I control time, but just make it go faster or slower to 'you' whenever you wanted it too?

personally I think through meditation this may be possible but id like to see your outlooks.

I was going to say i think meditation is a good start to slow down time, to un-viel the illusion of time. Im not sure about making time go faster.

Time is subjective, 30 min to me might be 2 hours for you -It depends on your awareness.

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A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future. [/b]

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yes, but the question is, how do you become more aware?


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50th post, WOOT!!!

This has infact happened to me before. I was in my history class and I was extremely bored out of my mind as my teacher rambled on and on about the neolithic revolution. as i sat there I kind of fell into this trance. When I came back i looked up the clock and ten minutes had gone by. so i thought i would try it consciously. It was kinda hard not to concentrate on it but soon enough i cleared my mind and sat for what i thought was about five or so minutes (Im not sure because the whole point was to forget the concept of time) but i looked up and about 8 minutes had passed. this really intrigued me so when i got home that night i decided to meditate. i decided i would meditate for ten minutes. so i sat crosslegged on my bed, closed my eyes and shut out all thoughts that were entering my mind. after a while of sitting the thoughts started coming in more and more and finally i couldn't sit there anymore. im not that good at meditating anyway. so i decided to give it up and try i another time when i was in the right mood. But when i opened up my eyes 45 MINUTES HAD PASSED! it honestly only felt like 8 minutes!

Time doesn't move in at a constant pace. The rate of time can change depending on things like relative speed to a reference point, or gravity. There's also other things that can change time rate.

Is anyone familiar with the twin paradox? It's classic and worth being familar with.

There is also a good illustration of time's change w/ respect to gravity in the book "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Greene. Time would be slowed down a lot next to a black hole, for example.

It seems like there's a connection with becoming more aware and being able to "feel" these differences in the rate of time.

I can recall time feeling like it slowed down once when I hit a 3 point shot w/ regulation play about to end. I've also heard one race car driver claim to feel like time slowed down during a horrible wreck that they had.

But is the time rate actually changing, or is our awareness simply heightened during these time-change moments?

Cool topic.

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Interesting question LucidT

I always say time is relative to your perception.

its like when you dream an hour can seem like 15 min and 15 min can seem like an hour.

Mystical_Journey wrote

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its like when you dream an hour can seem like 15 min and 15 min can seem like an hour.[/b]

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Yeah, I can totally relate.

This really isn't that related, but personally, when I have a deja vu in real life, it usually occurs in the form of a dream that lasts only for that short deja vu moment. I definitely feel a change in time rate w/ these type of dreams.

For example, there was this one time when I had a deja vu last around 30 seconds. I recalled the dream that induced the real life deja vu. I slept for 6 hours or so, but it was one of those times when I set my head down for what felt like only a few seconds and woke up to see on the clock that hours had passed.

Just a note about awareness; I've found that for me, doing more reality checks during the day leads to more recall w/ dreams. I'm willing to bet that reality checks are one way to "exercise" your self to become more aware....moreaware in whatever area you're natrually gifted in.

It seems like awareness is very complex...it depends on which area you're hyper-aware in which affects a number of possible areas in your lucid/waking life. I've always had a knack for deja vu's and that's one area for me that naturally strengthened itself when I became more "lucidly" aware.

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Originally posted by LucidT
Time doesn't move in at a constant pace. The rate of time can change depending on things like relative speed to a reference point, or gravity. There's also other things that can change time rate.

Is anyone familiar with the twin paradox? It's classic and worth being familar with.

There is also a good illustration of time's change w/ respect to gravity in the book \"The Elegant Universe\" by Brian Greene. Time would be slowed down a lot next to a black hole, for example.

It seems like there's a connection with becoming more aware and being able to \"feel\" these differences in the rate of time.

I can recall time feeling like it slowed down once when I hit a 3 point shot w/ regulation play about to end. I've also heard one race car driver claim to feel like time slowed down during a horrible wreck that they had.

But is the time rate actually changing, or is our awareness simply heightened during these time-change moments?

Cool topic.

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Like I said, not actually change time, but change your awareness so you perceive time at a different speed than others, just like mystical journey said... except use a meditation method or something like that to change your perception...

I think I’m going to do some experiments and try different methods for slowing and speeding my perception of time, I have meditated and noticed that time had seemed to go by faster, so I’m going to see if its possible to do with your eyes open and with noise so essentially making a conscious decision to "zone out"

(i'll post any progress)

I read a book by a guy named David Icke about consciousness, and it being the only Real Truth. And while I agree/disagree with a bunch of his points, his explaination of the illusion of time I can relate to.
The very best thing you can do to speed time, is to become unconscious of it. You have to train your mind to something Other than time. When you're in school, or at work, and waiting for time to go by (especially within the last hour that you're being detained) time seems to crawl to near a dead stop. The reason behind this, in my opinion, is that when you're mentally BEGGING time to hurry, you're spending much more of your awareness on Time itself. For that reason, by the time the concept of Time passes through your mind 4 or five times, you check the clock again, and only 2 minutes have passed. However, if you were to say to yourself: "Ok, I only have an hour left. All I have to do is keep myself consciously occupied for an hour." and are able to find something that holds your complete attention (awareness) for that time, by the time the concept of time goes through your head once or twice, your hour is already up.
With this knowledge, I've tried a few abstract experiments with time while at work. While thumbing through files (I work at an insurance agency) I'd look at the stack I have and at first say to myself 'there is no way I can get through this stack in an hour." Then I'll stop and say "wait a minute, if time doesn't exist, and its all a measure of awareness to time, I would have no problem doing this. So I would completely set the idea of 'watching the clock' out of my mind, but maintain awareness that I'd have to be done with what I"m doing by (whatever the top of the hour was.) 3 times in a row I've done this little experiment, and to my surprise, I've finished the stack of papers within 2 minutes of the top of the hour.
The trick to time is awareness. Like LL Cool J said in Deep Blue Sea, "You put your hands on a hot pan, a second can seem like an hour. Get your hands on a hot woman, an hour can seem like a second. Its all relative." This is So true. In one senario, you're completely attuned to "HOLY HELL HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO BURN??!" And every Second of heat is burned into your conscious. In the other, you're completely infatuated with the woman you are with, so much so that the concept of time is the furthest thing on your mind. So by the time you look at the clock (if at all) hours could have gone by without your noticing.
....the same is true with sex, now that I think about it. :D

yeah what you just explained is what I was planning on doing :P I was going to see how the easiest way to get your mind off of time is, and then the easiest way to put your mind on time, (thinking about it should make it seem slower)

although, I have had times where I looked at the clock and it said say, 1:30 pm, but I paid no attention to the clock whatsoever or to time, I had no reason to I was watching a TV show that I didn’t like or dislike, but later I just randomly glanced up at the clock, it said it was only about 5 mins later (1:35pm) but when I thought about it, it had seemed like an hour had gone by.... even though I had no reason to be thinking about time or anything it had crept by at an amazingly slow pace. this is what I mean by making time slow... not actually having to think about it at all except maybe one time and it just crawl by like a snail for the rest of the day (it did continue to crawl by for the whole day that day) maybe this has something to do with the subconcious clock in all of us, and not the concious awareness of time itself

ok i took awhile and tested out the previous mentioned methods, this is what i got:

1: speeding time.
.............obviously it would take some knowledge in meditation and such to come up with a real "meathod" for slowing/ speeding time (making adrenalin pump etc) but i have found a way to put yourself in a mindset to make time seem slightly faster, this is to use in situations like the classroom and work (repetative things) it was also mentioned by Oneironaut and seems to work well.... what you have to do is when you look at the clock and say it says 2:48 PM,
you would then say to yourself "its about 2:40 now" and try and think nothing more of it, then when you feel like looking at the time dont, try to just think about the task at hand, or if your in class then just find something to read and get your mind off time, then later when you look at the clock youl remember seeing 2:40 last time thus adding 8 minutes to the time that you saw last time, and this automatically makes the time go by faster, also another meathod for doing this is when you look at the time just round it down instead of up, giving yourself a good 2-4 mins, also dont even think about it, just get into the habiit of rounding it down. also when you look at the time after you rounded it down the first time dont round it until the next time you look.

slowing time:
.............this one doesnt work nearly as well since your probably wanting to focus on something with time "slowed" but what you do is focus on the clock, and round the numbers up instead of down every time you look, this will create the illusion that youve been stolen from you... i dont see why anyone would want this to happen but thats the only way i can see how,

actually making time go by really really fast:
...........ever been at home or on a long long bus ride that you just wanted to be done with? well your going to need earplugs and possible a sleepmask... get confortable and make sure you have no pressure points, (the back is the best position for this) now that you can see no light and hear no noise you need to close your eyes, start at ten and slowly count down from 20, (say breathe in, breathe out, 20, and then the same thing again until your at 0, also every time you say breathe out relax as much more as is possible) after you get done counting down from 20 start counting up, until you reach 100, when thats done just start saying to yourself breathe in, breathe out, over and over again until an alarm that you set takes you out of the trancelike state. also its important to remember that you should only be thinking about counting and breathing, and if at the encd when your only thinking about breathing if your thoughts stray you should start counting to 50 again trying to focus only on it.

(sorry for all the spelling errors but i dont have spellcheck atm, ill check it soon)

if my attention is focused intently on a reference point in time and i wish for it to change, i would imagine the first thing needed to accomplish this would be some level of control over the temperature surrounding it. i don't place much stock in meditation, but i'm convinced if absolute zero is ever achieved the next logical step would be a literal manipulation of time

A clock going seemingly fast is just an illusion. We obviously can't feel an intangible concept such as time, so we rely on clocks and reference the pace of events. As some might notice, being busy while collecting a lot of information in the process might distract them from keeping pace with the events that are ongoing, and thus create a void of what happened. If there was a "void" in our recent pace of events, and time has past significantly on a clock, it would seem as if we had recently checked the time.

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Originally Posted by malac

We obviously can't feel an intangible concept such as time

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i did - do - will mourn the passing of my grandfather

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Originally Posted by greenhavoc

i did - do - will mourn the passing of my grandfather

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Yep, you can learn to distort your perception of time. It happens ALL the time. Like, you know when you're driving on the freeway for a while, and then you slow down for the off-ramp, and it feels like you're driving at friggin 2mph? It's the same time distortion effect.

I read somewhere that the way to slow things down is to imagine everything in your peripheral vision going really really fast, and everything in the center of your focus going slowly, and you'll create a similar state as to when you're used to driving fast. Pro athletes (boxers, etc.) have been shown to be in that state when they perform at their best.

It's all perception. I find the best way to 'speed' time is to pre-occupy the mind. While 'slowing' time requires intense focus. I've had times where I can go through a few hours in what feels like minutes, or go through a few minutes in what feels like hours. I'm sure with practice you could easily control how you percieve time... it's all the mind.

What a necropost

You mean your perception of time? Thats very different. Only huge speeds and huge gravitational fields can change the speed of time.

i don't know how many times i need to say it, but if you can control temperature then you will control time

Say it as much as you like; if you don't explain it, nobody cares.

i'll have to wait until i can post a image. i'm not that good with words, but i'm alright with ink

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Originally Posted by greenhavoc

i don't know how many times i need to say it, but if you can control temperature then you will control time

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That doesn't follow.

Temperature does not alter time, only velocity and gravity.

really, so what happens to time if there's no temperture at all. think about this before you chalk it up as rediculous