Thread: 8 Hour Lucidity - Need Researchers

This is a personal goal that i have been pursueing for a little while.

Being lucid in other stages of sleep, not just REM (Main dream stage).

The ultimate goal is to be aware of myself, the whole way through the sleep process, from my head hitting the pillow to getting up in the morning. This means being aware (lucid) during light sleep, deep sleep, slow wave sleep (which is probably the hardest bit), aswell as the normal REM stage.

A tough task perhaps, but i've already had some brilliant experiences in attempting it.

First:

Is it possible?

Yes i fully believe it is possible to stay aware during all stages of sleep. My evidence comes from two main sources;

1. Tibetan monks have long been known to be able to do this, through simple meditation.

2. Sleep deprivation studies show that if someone stays awake for too long (about 5-7 days) their brain will actually go through the sleeping process, while they are awake and fully functionable. Here is part 2 of a documentry of what im talking about.
This man actually entered light, slow wave, and even REM sleep while he was awake. Pay close attention to 2:10 of that video.


Second:

Why bother?

What good would come out of remaining concious throughout all of the night?

Well i think it would greatly improve your strength of mind, your patience, sense of self - etc. And every dream would be a WILD.



This will probably take years to master. However i beleive i have already become lucid during non-rem stages of sleep - so it is quite possible.

Im going to use this thread to record any advancements i make, and i encourage anyone interested to do the same.

Well last night when i jumped into bed, i tried to remain concious for 90minutes so i could enter REM conciously from sleep onset.

When i say 'remain concious' i wasnt focusing on anything. I wasnt 'using energy' and it did infact feel like i was resting. It was not like i was sitting there thinking 'aww hurry up, im getting tired'. I just sat and enjoyed the random thoughts, sounds, and images that popped up.

I went for what must have been a good hour. Then the next thing i know, im in sleep paralysis - and have an awesome WILD. Afterwards i wake up and find that i was only in bed for about an hour and a half, meaning that i had WILD'd on the first sleep cycle and almost managed to stay aware for a full cycle.

Well, i foolishly took some 'Nightol' stuff cause i have a cold.

These tablets make you drowsy tho, so i fell alseep almost instantly i dont remember a THING.

No tabs tonight tho, so here goes!

good luck m8, i hope it works for u.

I wonder whether or not if the 'western' world is geared towards mental aspects as such and dedication that the Tibetan monks show. Their ambitions are on a religious scale and so therefore their depth of devotion is a lot stronger as this is part of their culture. But I’m sure you will overcome that aspect pretty damn easily!

It’s pretty cool that you can lie conscious for well over an hour as I lose patience really easily lol. If u could maybe put together a step by step when you become more attuned with this im sure many on Dreamviews members would be really grateful including myself!

Keep up the good work m8

Originally Posted by Niddiboy

good luck m8, i hope it works for u.

I wonder whether or not if the 'western' world is geared towards mental aspects as such and dedication that the Tibetan monks show. Their ambitions are on a religious scale and so therefore their depth of devotion is a lot stronger as this is part of their culture. But I’m sure you will overcome that aspect pretty damn easily!

It’s pretty cool that you can lie conscious for well over an hour as I lose patience really easily lol. If u could maybe put together a step by step when you become more attuned with this im sure many on Dreamviews members would be really grateful including myself!

Keep up the good work m8

Thanks for the encouragement dude!

Update:

Thinking without monologue (or without using words to think about things; eg; "hmm..i wonder why i just randomly thought about a cat") seems to be a good way to remain aware but also allowing your subconcious to take over and start throwing out random thoughts as you fall asleep, allowing you to fall deeper into the sleep process.

Focusing on a thought, or putting it into words - seems to stop the random thoughts from coming. This makes sense. I think the trick is to remain 'aware' but not to focus on the thoughts. In a way, 'hide' from your brain - Be there, but dont make any noise.

The problem is that throughout the day our awareness arises usually through us analysing things, questioning them, and running them through our brain. However in this case, you have to learn to be aware - without over assesing the thought itself, but this can lead you to loosing conciousness. Hmm. Its a tricky one.

I dont think this is something that i can just 'realise' how to do. I really think its something that needs excersised.

So off i go!........