Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Date: 17 May
Dose: WBTB 2x200mg p.oil tablets, green tea; pre bed: 120 mg gingko
Side effects: tablets are really strong, but it was ok this time
Sleep duration: appx. 8:30 (including WBTB 10 mins, and being woken up)
Cognitive: extremely vivid, strong emotions, mostly on the positive side
Sexual: No
Atmosphere: some creepy moments but not that scary, lots of positivity and bizarre occurrences (animals and a strange smart kid), talking about dreams, felt close to lucid!
Other Comments: I was very happy with the gingko-menthol-tea combo. While odds were against me (woken up 5 times by different things), which made me lose some dream memories, I managed to remember few of them, and only lost like half an hour of sleep for 5 wakes. The main point: really vivid and positive emotions, left me with a good mood when I woke up. I look forward to trying this combo again.

Creepy stairs, smart kid, panda-like creature/

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Peppermint Pig!

Am I the only one depressed by the fact that damn near every nootropic company in the existence sells all the exact same supplements? ._.;;

I'm loving the results, congrats everyone.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Dose:Pre-bed; 3g fish oil, 500mg B5, 200mg peppermint oil, WBTB; 500mg choline bitartrate, 500mg inositol, 200mg peppermint oil, 674mg valerian root
Side-effects: None.
Sleep duration: ~8hrs
Cognitive: reasoning took a back seat, I RCd a few times but just tried to wake up.
Sexual:Nope.
Atmosphere:Fucking mindscarring, timebending multidimensional portal-hopping pursued by a nameless fear... My kind of dream.
Other comments: Phew, that was probably the most intense night of dreaming since I first experimented with menthol. Definitely qualified as nightmarish, multiple FA chains again. I seemed be dreaming constantly from when I returned to bed to when I got up in the morning, there was so much dreaming that seemed totally real at the time but I now can't remember because there was just too much to recall.

I love that menthol gives me these Lovecraftian horror dreams.

I love ittttt. Betcha thought I was kidding with that example overdose huh? I know my stuff.

Basically what I got involved in this thread for I don't think anyone questions that you know your stuff

Speaking of dosages has anyone tried 3 peppermint tablets?

Well you guys, I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow and I'm not going to have a computer with me so I'm going to be gone for at least the next 10-12 days. Until then I'll be totally unreachable but after that you can still talk to me by PM, I'm just planning to also go on a break for a little bit after getting back. I'll miss you guys, I hope you all keep getting good results and have good luck getting lucid.

Have a good end of the month, I'll see you all later.

Date: Mon May 20th 2013
Dose: (Bed) Oil of Peppermint capsule (x1) = 200 mg. (WBTB) Oil of Peppermint capsule (x1) = 200 mg. (Total = 400 mg)
All taken with water.
Side Effects: Ok.
Sleep Duration: Approx (5.25)-6 hrs before (WBTB 27 min) 3 hrs after. Total = (8.25)-9 hrs approx.
Cognitive: Average recall, general, NLD, etc.
Sexual: Yes – one dream had a sexual overtone to it.
Atmosphere: Generally normal, although one of the dreams was rather sinister.
Other Comments: Some mainly work-related dreams and fragments recorded.

Dose:Pre-sleep; 500mg B5, 3g fish oil, 200mg peppermint oil; WBTB; 500mg choline, 500mg inositol, 200mg peppermint oil
Side-effects:
Sleep duration: ~8hrs, 10mins WBTB after 4hrs sleep
Cognitive: semi-lucid control, believed myself to be dream sharing with some friends
Sexual: No
Atmosphere: macabre/gothic towards the end of the dream, sleepy hollow overtones.
Comments: first experiment with SSILD

Next time i'll probably gonna try valerian again, upping the dose from last time, or St. John's Wort.

Date: Wed May 22nd 2013
Dose: (Bed) Honey and Lemon Lockets (x5) = 48.5 mg (WBTB) Honey and Lemon Lockets (x5) = 48.5 mg. (Menthol total = 97 mg)
Side Effects: Slight gripey stomach/wind. (See note)
Sleep Duration: 5.5 hrs before (WBTB 40 min) 3.75 hrs after. Total = 9.25 hrs
Cognitive: Average recall. HI and visuals.
Sexual: No
Atmosphere: Trippy and colourful at one point (pre-WBTB.) Interesting storyline in main dream (post-WBTB.)
Other Comments: I did experience a slight panic attack just after the first (probable) REM stage in the early to middle of the night after recording the first dream. (A couple or so ‘cold-waves’/mental thoughts induced it after dwelling on my dream.)
My recall is a bit flat/down this week which would have affected my result possibly, in a negative way.
FA/DEILD-themed (NL) dream noted. (Pre-WBTB)

Carter U.S.M. The party, etc. - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Dose: Pre-bed: 100mg 5-HTP, 5g fish oil; WBTB: 4 bags peppermint tea, 800mg mucuna pruriens
Side Effects: Moderate insomnia. Dream friskiness.
Sleep Duration: 7 hours
Cognitive: Recall was average. Vividness very high during LD. Overall dream quantity slightly below average. (Surprising -- could be due to slight insomnia.)
Sexual: Very very! The lucid dream was almost 100% me pursuing (and then having) sex with my wife. Early NLD was non-sexual.
Atmosphere: Sexy.
Lucid: Yes

Menthol + mucuna pruriens = ultra frisky mode! So am I the first one to combine menthol with one of the other dopaminergics? The result in my case was a very one-dimensional but very fun lucid dream.

Here's the LD: Menthol and Marriage - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Note on Mucuna Pruriens: Mucuna pruriens contains L-DOPA, a precursor to dopamine. Even though there aren't any known problems with mucuna in the recommended dosages for healthy people, you'd want to be careful to keep dosages low and probably avoid entirely if you have a family history of mental illness.

I like how you try to come on to your wife in a dream when she's physically lying next to you. Dream logic.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

I like how you try to come on to your wife in a dream when she's physically lying next to you. Dream logic.

LOL. That's true! Then again, when it's 3 AM on a work morning and the kids have been waking up throughout the night, sometimes you awaken your spouse at your own peril.

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

LOL. That's true! Then again, when it's 3 AM on a work morning and the kids have been waking up throughout the night, sometimes you awaken your spouse at your own peril.

Point taken.

When you have sex with your wife in a dream is it monogamy, adultery, or masturbation?

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

WBTB: 4 bags peppermint tea, 120mg L-DOPA

Nice use of L-Dopa. I may have to dig my bottle out and use it for something other than a morning boost.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

When you have sex with your wife in a dream is it monogamy, adultery, or masturbation?

Ha! That's probably one for the philosophers. But I'd say that it depends on who you ask.

According to CanisLucidus: "Beautiful, romantic monogamy, and an expression in the dream world of our love and attraction."
According to Wife: "Eww. Boys."

Originally Posted by Xanous

Nice use of L-Dopa. I may have to dig my bottle out and use it for something other than a morning boost.

I remember that you had insane levels of dream control when you stacked mucuna pruriens with G+C! Wasn't that how you ripped through the "Europe" Task of the Year? I also recall that you found the dreams a bit rushed and less vivid, perhaps...?

If you try it, I'll be curious to see whether you deal with any insomnia. I was a little alarmed by how awake I felt by the end of WBTB.

I think it was how short the dreams were that bothered me and though it was a full lucid dream it felt sort of movie like. More visual and auditory than physical.

Date: 21 May
Dose: pre bed 120mg gingko, WBTB: 2x200mg p.oil capsules
Side Effects: good mood
Sleep duration: appx. 8 hrs
Cognitive: dreams were not very interesting, but extremely vivid. Unfortunately my recall was quite poor.
Sexual: no
Atmosphere: normal to positive, a rehash of old memories and people, also one short chase with some dark-gray creature that looked like a mix between a dog and hulk.
Other comments: This is the second time I am trying this combo (gingko-p.oil tablets) and I have woken up very recharged and had ultra positive mood that lasted up to an hour after wake.

Not much to read but here's the entry anyways. DJ Entry 21 May

Dose: Pre-bed: 1mg melatonin, 3g fish oil; WBTB: 1/4 cup peppermint leaves, 1 bag green tea, 800mg mucuna pruriens (120mg L-Dopa)
Side Effects: slight difficulty getting back to sleep. (Ideal)
Sleep Duration: 8 hours
Cognitive: Low recall. Failed vibration stage twice. Picked up random DILD. Control was excellent. Vividness high.
Sexual: slight sexual overtone after lucid. Disturbing.
Atmosphere: Stable and bright.
Lucid: Was very short but I was able to pull of the fire TOTM. I may increase caffeine next time.

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/xanous/burn-46675/

Date: 24 May
Dose: pre bed SJW 450 mg, 100 mg B6, WBTB: 2x200mg p.oil capsules
Side effects: what is going on?
Sleep duration: 7 hrs
Cognitive: so vivid, we have to come up with another word for vividness, lucid moments on and off, two more decent lucids
Sexual: no
Atmosphere: hard to describe, a bit of everything, but I think that menthol has managed to neutralize the typical for me B6 aggression, and I got really deep feelings, some happiness, some sadness, a little bit of chase that was not that scary because I became lucid, although continued running
Other: I don't know what to say. A fantastic night. I think somebody else should take a few days off supps and then try this combo (SJW, B6, peppermint oil) to see if they get something similar.

Lucid Menthol Night

Congratulations, Nyx, sounds like an amazing night! I'm trying to remember whether the drug store down the street had SJW. It sounds like it's pretty commonly available stuff. Hmmm...

St. John's wort?

Originally Posted by Xanous

St. John's wort?

Yep! St. John's wort should inhibit the reuptake of serotonin, so it could help dreaming similarly to how 5-HTP (a serotonin precursor) does. (Note that I wouldn't combine these two, since serotonin overload can be dangerous.)

Yes, Xanous, you got that right.

Well, I really think it was the combo. B6 and menthol increased emotions and vividness a lot. Not sure about SJW's contribution because it is the first time I try it. If you try it, be sure to take a good amount of menthol like those capsules are 2x200 mg= 400 mg, I feel it contributed a lot. Tried menthol capsules five nights, and no sexual contents so far, but I found it better in combination with Gingko and SJW than with my 3 mg melatonin, which influences the mood in a slightly different way.

@ CL. Oh that makes sense then! Good point!

That's way cheaper than 5-HTP. I'm on it!