Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Menthol is an awesome support supp because it has huge effects on dream quality and length but doesn't (for me) make as much difference on lucidity.

I am looking forward to enhanced dream quality because of menthol. But I also believe that we may be able to capitalize on it and use it to become lucid indirectly. If there really are more or less persistent dream characteristics associated with menthol, then we just have to learn to identify those while dreaming. For example, “I am kissing JB, maybe this is a dream?”

(Note: I tried all of these things in isolation and worked my way methodically up to this -- I don't endorse swallowing everything in sight! )

Got it CL! No worries about that! I am sure outsiders may think we are supplement junkies but we are not, are we?

By the way, I tried fish oil and it only makes me to go into very deep, unmemorable sleep, so I won't be adding it to any cocktails unless they include salmon and some salad.

Originally Posted by NyxCC

I am looking forward to enhanced dream quality because of menthol. But I also believe that we may be able to capitalize on it and use it to become lucid indirectly. If there really are more or less persistent dream characteristics associated with menthol, then we just have to learn to identify those while dreaming. For example, “I am kissing JB, maybe this is a dream?”

Ny, don't know why but i think you might like JB???
So has anybody had any updates with green tea added?

Originally Posted by PeterF

Ny, don't know why but i think you might like JB???
So has anybody had any updates with green tea added?

Shhhh, quiet!

Oops, I totally messed up today. For one thing, I am starting to remind myself that if there is some erotic scene, I will be lucid. Not quite there though. The plan for today was have some green tea and possibly p. oil tablets after WBTB. Was very sleepy so totally ignored my plan, had sexual contents dream, did not get lucid. Dreams were vivid because of brain multivitamin I took...My experiments are really messed up. Oh, well...next time hopefully some better results and discipline in and out of dreams.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Quick question. I can't find piracetam capsules anywhere, will noopept do the trick at clearing the galantamine from my system? (I'm so new at LD supplements )

EDIT: nope, there's only nootropic powders on amazon, no capsules, which is a pain in the ass.

Good question, Ctharlhie. As my supply of Piracetam slowly dwindles, this is a question that I'll also need to figure out an answer for. It seems reasonable to me that the other racetams would work, but I simply don't know whether this has been studied.

There's a 1988 study that specifically Piracetam elevates muscarinic chol... [Psychopharmacology (Berl). 1988] - PubMed - NCBI addresses piracetam's ability to increase muscarinic receptor density in "aged mice". I'm not sure whether any similar studies have been done for the other racetams, but it's on my list of things to look into. As fewer and fewer caps rattle around in my bottle of piracetam, this has been on my mind more and more.

Originally Posted by NyxCC

I am looking forward to enhanced dream quality because of menthol. But I also believe that we may be able to capitalize on it and use it to become lucid indirectly. If there really are more or less persistent dream characteristics associated with menthol, then we just have to learn to identify those while dreaming. For example, “I am kissing JB, maybe this is a dream?”

That's a very good point! Getting to know the shape of menthol dreams and then going to bed with menthol on the brain does sound like a great way to give your brain the chance to connect the dots to lucidity.

Although, if a side effect of menthol that I have to look forward to is 106-degree Bieber Fever, I'm out.

Originally Posted by NyxCC

Got it CL! No worries about that! I am sure outsiders may think we are supplement junkies but we are not, are we?

By the way, I tried fish oil and it only makes me to go into very deep, unmemorable sleep, so I won't be adding it to any cocktails unless they include salmon and some salad.

Ahh, interesting! I have not been able to find very consistent differences in sleep quality with fish oil, but I take a good amount of the stuff anyway (for health and fitness reasons) so I've been pushing a bunch of it before bed to see what benefits it might bestow. Haven't noticed huge differences one way or the other yet.

Originally Posted by PeterF

Ny, don't know why but i think you might like JB???
So has anybody had any updates with green tea added?

Well, I've combined menthol w/ green tea in this post/trip report: http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...ml#post2014094. I used galantamine and choline, too, so the green tea was specifically there to help make WILD easier to achieve.

I also used menthol and green tea last night. I've got a DJ entry to write up on that, then I'll post my trip report in this thread later.