Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Argh... i'm failing more and more now. For some reason my alarm didn't go off today and i couldn't wake up for WBTB

I want to start using that template already... aww

I doubt I'll be much help with my screwed up sleeping timing. But at least I have shown having bad sleeping habits don't help in this research.

Dose: 29.4 mg of Halls Cherry Cough Drops (3 tablets 9.8 mg each)
Side Effects: None
Sleep Duration: Around 3-4 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: I can't really tell
Stability: Nope
Dream Comments: Nothing sexually related, just telling my father off in the dream. I think I took 3, but I spread out how I ate the tablets, so maybe that's why it didn't have much of an effect. I don't know why I took it so early without trying to fall asleep as soon as the last tablet was done.

A bit of a crazy night in more ways than one!


Thur July 12th 2012

Dose: 63.2 mg Cough drops *(Staged)
Side Effects: Insomnia, Stomach upset (Gastric), Diarrhea
Sleep Duration: 5 hrs after/3.5 hrs after (8.5 hrs approx)
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: YES (Two)
Vividness: Very High
Stability: Very High
Dream Comments:
Lucid No.1 had a sinister twist to it. Very vivid, and high quality. Lucid No.2 basically is one of the best lucid dreams I’ve experienced for a very long while. Really dynamic, with a storyline and interaction. Long duration with really strong visual output. Very pure, colourful and fun, with no distortion or loss of control. Rock solid stability throughout. Excellent recall and initial awareness with both examples. No need to RC! Both Memorable.
Odd thoughts, reverie and dream snippets during the night also. Flashback on association noted hours after waking. (Origin: Unknown?)
*(Stages: 1st Dose on retiring for bed. 2nd Dose taken during a toilet break. 3rd and final dose at WBTB.)

Getting Fired. Demonic ex boss. The House of Students - Strippoker? - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by RobStar

Thanks. I will look into this. I found this experiment has helped me. For example my lucid dreams when I have them are more dynamic and have been longer in length, now to the point where I can test or try things in the dream itself. There is more of a storyline also. I just need to try and get the right balance.
Yes I will have a break later this week and see what happens. Presumably you would still like this recording on the template/dj, thingymebob, etc?

I'm so glad that it's helped you so much! If you want to record your non-menthol dreams with the same template, that would be cool. You don't have to go out of your way if you don't think there's much worth saying other than what you can easily just get out in a sentence-or-two post, though.

Originally Posted by Carrot

Took me some time to find the template. 12th July 2012.

Dose: 2 Nin Jiom Herbal Candy Tangerine-Lemon
Side Effects: Nope, except that I was a little excited about it so I took a little longer to get to sleep although I was really tired.
Sleep Duration: 8 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: Yes but I think my dreams have been decently vivid all the while
Stability: Okay
Dream Comments: I can't recall my dreams. My recall's not doing too good nowadays and sleeping at screwed up timing (from 9am to 5pm) doesn't help. I can only recall my first dream was vivid, the rest were all a mess because I got woken up too many times.

Do you try writing down notes at all whenever you wake up? I wake up a lot during the night (or day, in your case lol) and I use that as an opportunity to increase my recall by writing down everything I can remember each time.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Argh... i'm failing more and more now. For some reason my alarm didn't go off today and i couldn't wake up for WBTB

I want to start using that template already... aww

Haha, I'm sure you'll come out of this slump soon. It wasn't your fault, anyway.

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Dose: 29.4 mg of Halls Cherry Cough Drops (3 tablets 9.8 mg each)
Side Effects: None
Sleep Duration: Around 3-4 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: I can't really tell
Stability: Nope
Dream Comments: Nothing sexually related, just telling my father off in the dream. I think I took 3, but I spread out how I ate the tablets, so maybe that's why it didn't have much of an effect. I don't know why I took it so early without trying to fall asleep as soon as the last tablet was done.

So you ate them a while before going to bed? Yeah, that's not good.... You really lower the chances of getting anything out of it that way. Don't do that.

Originally Posted by RobStar

A bit of a crazy night in more ways than one!


Thur July 12th 2012

Dose: 63.2 mg Cough drops *(Staged)
Side Effects: Insomnia, Stomach upset (Gastric), Diarrhea
Sleep Duration: 5 hrs after/3.5 hrs after (8.5 hrs approx)
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: YES (Two)
Vividness: Very High
Stability: Very High
Dream Comments:
Lucid No.1 had a sinister twist to it. Very vivid, and high quality. Lucid No.2 basically is one of the best lucid dreams I’ve experienced for a very long while. Really dynamic, with a storyline and interaction. Long duration with really strong visual output. Very pure, colourful and fun, with no distortion or loss of control. Rock solid stability throughout. Excellent recall and initial awareness with both examples. No need to RC! Both Memorable.
Odd thoughts, reverie and dream snippets during the night also. Flashback on association noted hours after waking. (Origin: Unknown?)
*(Stages: 1st Dose on retiring for bed. 2nd Dose taken during a toilet break. 3rd and final dose at WBTB.)

Getting Fired. Demonic ex boss. The House of Students - Strippoker? - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Sounds like a success to me! I love those insanely vivid lucids, they really can be mind-blowing.... I can't wait to see what other shenanigans you get into.

Oh, forgot to give an update.... I've now had two nights in a row where I didn't take menthol, and my dreams, especially lucids, have definitely lost their minty flavor. I had one DILD and one MILD. The DILD, yesterday, had a slight (very slight) sexual edge to it, but none of the menthol libido feeling... basically, nothing out of the ordinary. The MILD, today, while memorable just because of what I ended up achieving, was pretty plain as far as the style of my lucids goes. I definitely need to dose again tonight so I can get that nifty little mood boost back.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Do you try writing down notes at all whenever you wake up? I wake up a lot during the night (or day, in your case lol) and I use that as an opportunity to increase my recall by writing down everything I can remember each time.

Nope. I usually don't wake up during my sleep unless I get awoken by obvious sounds. But my recall was much better before, must be the screwed up sleeping timing and lack of dream recall practices. If you had tried sleeping in the day instead of night, you might get what I am saying.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Oh, forgot to give an update.... I've now had two nights in a row where I didn't take menthol, and my dreams, especially lucids, have definitely lost their minty flavor. I had one DILD and one MILD. The DILD, yesterday, had a slight (very slight) sexual edge to it, but none of the menthol libido feeling... basically, nothing out of the ordinary. The MILD, today, while memorable just because of what I ended up achieving, was pretty plain as far as the style of my lucids goes. I definitely need to dose again tonight so I can get that nifty little mood boost back.

All things considered though I do think it's a good thing to take a break as it can be demanding.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

I'm so glad that it's helped you so much! If you want to record your non-menthol dreams with the same template, that would be cool. You don't have to go out of your way if you don't think there's much worth saying other than what you can easily just get out in a sentence-or-two post, though.

Yep. No problem.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Sounds like a success to me! I love those insanely vivid lucids, they really can be mind-blowing.... I can't wait to see what other shenanigans you get into.

Yes, thanks. They were really great. It has got to be one of the most 'real' lucids probably I have experienced, probably in my whole life. At one point in the room everything was so calm and still. The lucid seem to last a good while.
It was a pity about the end with the physiological event happening, regarding my stomach, which was out of my control. If that had not happened then I'm sure it would have been even more fun, bare flesh and all perhaps!
However I'm not complaining as I know there is always a next time.
I ended up with typist's/writer's cramp after the wall of text today.
Regards.

Originally Posted by RobStar

All things considered though I do think it's a good thing to take a break as it can be demanding.

Definitely. I try not to take anything every single day anymore, out of habit. And like has been discussed, I do like my regular dreams as well.

Originally Posted by RobStar

Yes, thanks. They were really great. It has got to be one of the most 'real' lucids probably I have experienced, probably in my whole life. At one point in the room everything was so calm and still. The lucid seem to last a good while.
It was a pity about the end with the physiological event happening, regarding my stomach, which was out of my control. If that had not happened then I'm sure it would have been even more fun, bare flesh and all perhaps!
However I'm not complaining as I know there is always a next time.
I ended up with typist's/writer's cramp after the wall of text today.
Regards.

Those lucids are so great. I almost always just end up observing my surroundings in those situations, it's unbelievable how vivid they can get....
Yeah, that is a shame. Do you think there's a chance that that will keep happening if you keep using menthol? You do seem to get that side effect a lot. Though, I guess you have just been using the cough drops. Do you think you'll try a different way any time soon just to see if there's a physiological difference?

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Those lucids are so great. I almost always just end up observing my surroundings in those situations, it's unbelievable how vivid they can get....
Yeah, that is a shame. Do you think there's a chance that that will keep happening if you keep using menthol? You do seem to get that side effect a lot. Though, I guess you have just been using the cough drops. Do you think you'll try a different way any time soon just to see if there's a physiological difference?

I know - that's why it's really frustrating when you do wake up sometimes.

It is something I still want to try as it is working for me. I did say beforehand that I did get good results with WBTB, but not this good.
With the stomach/sleep thing then I must be sensitive to one of the ingredients so I will try the tea perhaps and see how I get on.
Also it is possible that this is like some sort of feedback loop, not only just involving the Menthol but going on DV as well, which seem to be driving the mind as well if you see what I mean. For example if you get a lucid in the week, record it, research it then you know (in your own head)you are going to get another one at some point, simply because you have done it before.

Amazon.com: Menthol Crystals 100% Natural 4oz by Greenals: Health & Personal Care

Anyone wana try this

Originally Posted by whitedreams

Amazon.com: Menthol Crystals 100% Natural 4oz by Greenals: Health & Personal Care

Anyone wana try this

That depends on how easy they are to crush into a powder.

Purchased some, regardless. Thanks for that!

Originally Posted by RobStar

I know - that's why it's really frustrating when you do wake up sometimes.

It is something I still want to try as it is working for me. I did say beforehand that I did get good results with WBTB, but not this good.
With the stomach/sleep thing then I must be sensitive to one of the ingredients so I will try the tea perhaps and see how I get on.
Also it is possible that this is like some sort of feedback loop, not only just involving the Menthol but going on DV as well, which seem to be driving the mind as well if you see what I mean. For example if you get a lucid in the week, record it, research it then you know (in your own head)you are going to get another one at some point, simply because you have done it before.

For sure, for sure. I'm definitely lucid a lot more when I get really involved on DV, thinking about it goes a long way. There's certainly nothing wrong with taking advantage of that, though. I'm fine with a self-sustaining dream enhancer.

Awww yeah!

Dose: 3 Negros (unknown dose)
Side Effects: Light Stomachache
Sleep Duration: Around 1 hour 10 minutes after taking the candies
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: Yes
Vividness: Usual, but feelings were more powerful
Stability: Maybe a little bit better than usually
Dream Comments:

Third time in a row that i was able to fall asleep after taking the 3 Negros and i had a lucid yet again That's basically 3 in a row now, which is really promising in my opinion

DJ Entry: Girl School, Hug Time - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I noticed that my feelings were more powerful than usually, especially at the hug part, which just made it even more awesome

As a side effect, i had a light stomachache just after i took all 3 candies, but i seem to have this everytime i take them... it doesn't really distract me though.

Dose: 2 tablets of Halls Cough Drop (9.8 mg each)
Side Effects: No
Sleep Duration: 3.5-4 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: No
Stability: No
Dream Comments:

I didn't remember any dreams, but I figured I just post anyway. I didn't wake up with anything sticking out thankfully. >.>

A bit different. A bit sexy...

Fri July 13th 2012

Dose: 15.8 mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia (Chronic)
Sleep Duration: 3.5 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Dream snippets and visuals, one sexual. Vibrations in one dream. General sleeplessness. Stomach ok.

Hypnagogia, GF at my bedroom door, The Fridge, Snippets, etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

That depends on how easy they are to crush into a powder.

Purchased some, regardless. Thanks for that!

I can only assume you have sub-gram electronic scales.

Okay my recall has been terrible the last few days but I just realized something, I've had sexy dreams for the past three days. It definitely links up to the mint because they are seriously rare otherwise. Wow I thought I didn't get that effect. Btw here's an article on peppermint as an aphrodisiac Peppermint

According to traditional sources, inhaling peppermint scent can activate the imagination and bring about erotic dreams among women.

If applied on the skin produces a cooling and exciting sensation which makes the erogenous zones in women more receptive to sexual pleasure.

This dilates the blood vessels and aids the supply of oxygen-rich blood to various organs including the vagina among women.....making it easier to be sexually aroused and achieve intense orgasms.

Been used since the time of ancient Greeks, when the physician Galen advocated its use to arouse desire among women.

Alright, I'll keep a vial in my pocket.

Well, I ended up skipping again last night because I felt rather unhealthy (nothing serious, just some random anxiety) and I didn't want to push it, but I'll be getting those menthol crystals soon enough anyway, so hopefully that'll amount to something. I got the email that they had shipped this morning. I think if I do try something again before then, which I probably will tonight if there aren't any other unforeseen circumstances, it'll probably just be mint candies.... Those seem to work out pretty well, apparently.

For the record, I did get lucid last night, but it was again totally ordinary. I also had an incredibly vivid non-lucid, but that's another story entirely. I don't think it was connected so much to any supplemental effects as much as it was just the environment of it all. It felt totally like a lucid in every way, even knowing that there were absolutely no consequences to my actions, except that I believed it all to be real. Very interesting.... Should've taken the menthol for it. >w<

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Awww yeah!

Dose: 3 Negros (unknown dose)
Side Effects: Light Stomachache
Sleep Duration: Around 1 hour 10 minutes after taking the candies
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: Yes
Vividness: Usual, but feelings were more powerful
Stability: Maybe a little bit better than usually
Dream Comments:

Third time in a row that i was able to fall asleep after taking the 3 Negros and i had a lucid yet again That's basically 3 in a row now, which is really promising in my opinion

DJ Entry: Girl School, Hug Time - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I noticed that my feelings were more powerful than usually, especially at the hug part, which just made it even more awesome

As a side effect, i had a light stomachache just after i took all 3 candies, but i seem to have this everytime i take them... it doesn't really distract me though.

Alright, three for three! One more and it's a true success, eh? Whenever I took it the second time and hugged a DC it felt insanely real too, it was pretty wonderful. It seems like I always get much stronger tactile sensations from it... a very nice effect.

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Dose: 2 tablets of Halls Cough Drop (9.8 mg each)
Side Effects: No
Sleep Duration: 3.5-4 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: No
Vividness: No
Stability: No
Dream Comments:

I didn't remember any dreams, but I figured I just post anyway. I didn't wake up with anything sticking out thankfully. >.>

Yeah, you probably didn't really get a good enough amount of sleep to see much of an effect from it. Have you thought about dosing a bit higher next time?

Originally Posted by RobStar

A bit different. A bit sexy...

Fri July 13th 2012

Dose: 15.8 mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia (Chronic)
Sleep Duration: 3.5 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Dream snippets and visuals, one sexual. Vibrations in one dream. General sleeplessness. Stomach ok.

Hypnagogia, GF at my bedroom door, The Fridge, Snippets, etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I'm glad to hear your stomach was okay this time. Sounds like a cool night, woo for more sexual themes!

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

I can only assume you have sub-gram electronic scales.

I might, I might.

...Actually I don't, but I know where to get one. I'm prepared.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Okay my recall has been terrible the last few days but I just realized something, I've had sexy dreams for the past three days. It definitely links up to the mint because they are seriously rare otherwise. Wow I thought I didn't get that effect. Btw here's an article on peppermint as an aphrodisiac Peppermint

Hell yes! Thanks for that article. And I'm glad to hear it's been giving you the sexual dreams as well. So how much have you been drinking every night? Are you still trying that mixed recipe you made?

Yes I'm still drinking the mixture just without the green tea and clary sage oils (I didn't like the flavour). It really does work quite well, all day long I am concentrated and aware if I drink it in the morning. I'd say I drink about two cups each day. I have a week free of work so I can really check if the vividness of my dreams increases now .

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Alright, three for three! One more and it's a true success, eh? Whenever I took it the second time and hugged a DC it felt insanely real too, it was pretty wonderful. It seems like I always get much stronger tactile sensations from it... a very nice effect.

Exactly, the feeling just felt so real that i was surprised at it I couldn't really put it into words that well, but that feeling was really vivid and life-like... i'm not even sure if a hug felt that real before in any of my dreams so far


If only i could find out the dose of the Negro candy.... but i see no way to do so other than calling the info-line... but if it's really that much of a secret, then they probably wouldn't tell me on that line either
Is there any way i could work it out with using the numbers of other things it contains?

Also... make that 5 instead of 4... 5 is a much nicer number as a success and doesn't make my OCD senses tingle, lol.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

If only i could find out the dose of the Negro candy.... but i see no way to do so other than calling the info-line... but if it's really that much of a secret, then they probably wouldn't tell me on that line either
Is there any way i could work it out with using the numbers of other things it contains?

Also... make that 5 instead of 4... 5 is a much nicer number as a success and doesn't make my OCD senses tingle, lol.

Without directly asking them, no, probably not. :T I mean, as long as it works for you, I suppose it's not that big of a deal for now.... We'll figure it out soon enough.

And I completely understand, 5 is a much cleaner number.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Also... make that 5 instead of 4... 5 is a much nicer number as a success and doesn't make my OCD senses tingle, lol.

But.... it's not a multiple of 3! Get 6!