Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Thanks!
To be fair, I did have a good run in June as well. I was mostly on the AJ then. (You could probably use that as my control? I.e. compare my early DJ results with this month's. All times / supplements used, or not used, etc. should be accurate.)
Any questions then give me a shout!
I did put a heck of a lot of work into it, probably a bit too much sometimes with the continuous WBTB, etc. However I had a bit of a blast, and I will always remember those memorable and vivid lucid/dreams, so again, thanks for that.
A lot of the lucids I had were short affairs - but hey we all need the practice for when the long stable ones come along.

Alright, I'll check it out! I'll let you know if I need any info!

Since things are kind of winding down here, have you considered going on another break? Not to get more data or anything, but just since you've been using pretty good amounts of menthol. I certainly wouldn't want you to discover some unwanted side effects just because of this.

And yes indeed! A lucid is a lucid, and the more you have the better you get regardless.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Alright, I'll check it out! I'll let you know if I need any info!

Yep, no problem.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Since things are kind of winding down here, have you considered going on another break? Not to get more data or anything, but just since you've been using pretty good amounts of menthol. I certainly wouldn't want you to discover some unwanted side effects just because of this.

Yes sure. I will probably wind down a little. I will probably run with this 'till the end of this month, then post any results on here.
It was mainly the DJ and the typing that I found difficult. I really do enjoy the LD. I did consider giving it up at one point however I'm glad I persevered with it.
I'm quite lucky in a sense as I don't really get nightmares, etc. Sure I get spooky, sort of sinister dreams but nothing too bad. I tend not to over feed my imagination (via TV, movies, etc.)
My only vice(s) are the odd paracetamol, or looking at the sexy hawt girls thread.


Friday July 27th 2012

Dose: x3 Peppermint tea, x2 Extra strong Menthol cough drops = 31.6 mg, x3 Vitamin B6 tablets = 30 mg.*(Staged)
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 3.5 hrs approx / 5 hrs approx after (Total = 8.5 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (30 min)
Lucid: No
Vividness: Very poor / Bad
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: A much deeper sleep. Very poor recall. Earlier WBTB time. No significant dreams (if any?) reported pre or post WBTB. Felt randy post waking. (Psychological ?)
*(10.30 pm x1 cup, 11.55 pm x1 cup, WBTB x1 cup, x2 drops)

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/robs...d-notes-36415/

Ah well... i still couldn't get the extra strong Negros and i don't feel like eating a whole pack of cough drops ever again... So i'm still out. But it's good to see that some of you are still testing

Oh dear.. I had a 4 day break from menthol and last night I decided to take only 2, just to see if anything would happen.

Dose: 2 Halls extra strongs 12mg/piece = 24mg (is it really only 12mg? I'm seriously doubting that.)
Side Effects: none
Sleep Duration: 5 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: Nope (or maybe semi-lucid, I wanted to wake myself up.)
Vividness: Great
Stability: Great, I suppose?
Dream Comments: Two nightmares in a row D:>. At the end, when I was too tired to fight them anymore, I stabbed myself with a pair of scissors to wake up, twice. Didn't quite wake up the first time.

I should have more breaks :D

Sat July 28th 2012

Dose: x2 H & Lem Menthol cough drops = 19.4 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water, x1 Vitamin B6 tablet = 10 mg, x1 Banana
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 5.5 hrs approx / 2.5 hrs approx after (Total = 8 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (30 min)
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Good
Stability: Good
Dream Comments: A deeper sleep. Good recall of dreams and visuals. A memorable lucid. I remembered a stabilization technique and used it successfully. I went through a ‘solid’ object for the first time consciously. I tried my hand at reading an Aura.

My Bedroom. Going through a closed door (DILD), etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Cookieh

Oh dear.. I had a 4 day break from menthol and last night I decided to take only 2, just to see if anything would happen.

Dose: 2 Halls extra strongs 12mg/piece = 24mg (is it really only 12mg? I'm seriously doubting that.)
Side Effects: none
Sleep Duration: 5 hours
WBTB: No
Lucid: Nope (or maybe semi-lucid, I wanted to wake myself up.)
Vividness: Great
Stability: Great, I suppose?
Dream Comments: Two nightmares in a row D. At the end, when I was too tired to fight them anymore, I stabbed myself with a pair of scissors to wake up, twice. Didn't quite wake up the first time.

I should have more breaks

Sounds, uh, exciting. Hooray for nightmares!...?

Originally Posted by RobStar

Sat July 28th 2012

Dose: x2 H & Lem Menthol cough drops = 19.4 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water, x1 Vitamin B6 tablet = 10 mg, x1 Banana
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 5.5 hrs approx / 2.5 hrs approx after (Total = 8 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (30 min)
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Good
Stability: Good
Dream Comments: A deeper sleep. Good recall of dreams and visuals. A memorable lucid. I remembered a stabilization technique and used it successfully. I went through a ‘solid’ object for the first time consciously. I tried my hand at reading an Aura.

My Bedroom. Going through a closed door (DILD), etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Sounds like a fun night. I love phasing through stuff, it's the first power I actually worked to be good at. When I first started I would try to go through walls but they would just get pushed out a bit... like they would mold around me pushing through them but they'd be near impossible to actually get all the way through. Talk about frustrating!

I haven't had menthol in two days but the sexual dreams are persisting, maybe I can calm it down with some more menthol.

Sun July 29th 2012

Dose: x4 H and Lem cough drops = 38.8 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water, x1 Vitamin B6 = 10 mg *(Staged)
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 5.75 hrs approx / 3.5 hrs after (Total = 9.25 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (22 min)
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Early nightmare type scenario. Average to good dream recall with a bit of mental block. Sexy dream encounter. Good quality sleep and relaxation. Major dreamsign missed. Visuals and strong Hypnopompic imagery after sleeping on.
*(3.05 am x2 drops, WBTB x2 drops)

No breath. The girl spy and the kiss. Mom, etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views


Mon July 30th 2012

Dose: x2 H and Lem Menthol cough drops = 19.4 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water. x1 Vitamin B6 = 10 mg
Side Effects: Stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 6 hrs approx / 2.25 hrs after (Total = 8.25 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (24 min)
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Good recall. One dream had a depressing winter theme, whilst in another I felt like punching someone who represented something untrustworthy/secretive.

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/robs...ng-pong-36534/

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

I haven't had menthol in two days but the sexual dreams are persisting, maybe I can calm it down with some more menthol.

You're buggered now. You will forever have sexual dreams. Oh the horror. ;p

Tue July 31st 2012

Dose: x2 H and Lem Menthol cough drops = 19.4 mg, x2 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water, x1 Banana, x1 Breakfast *(Staged)
Side Effects: Slight stomach upset (Gastric)
Sleep Duration: 5.5 hrs approx/2.75 hrs/2.5 hrs after (Total = 10.75 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (Two periods)
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Pre WBTB - (No Menthol): FAP, Nightmarish early REM dreams, major panic attack (on early waking). Post WBTB - (Menthol): No major dreams to report, generally short or dream snippets. Reverie and visuals consistent with extra sleep.
*(WBTB1 5.15 am x2 drops, x1 AJ, x1 banana, WBTB2 8.30 am x1 breakfast cereal with milk, x1 AJ)

A couple of really bad dreams…‘Stopanic’, etc!!! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Time for an update guys, and this is a big one.
So I started a new chemical mixture, peppermint and st johns wort and the effectiveness was over the top.
dose one hand of peppermint and one hand of st johns wort leaves steeped in boiling water for ten mins.
Side Effects Harder to fall asleep
Sleep Duration 9hrs
WBTB Deild
Lucid Yes or no, I don't remember if it happened after I lost lucidity or I started a new dream.
Vividness Great
Stability good
Dream Comments: Your definition of sexual dream cannot be applied to what I have eperienced, I repeat cannot. It was so sexual I'm not gonna post what happened because it would make the internet seem like a safe place. Just know that before menthol I have only remembered about 3 sexual dreams, I already noted an increase with menthol and now this. I advise everyone to try it, seriously.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Time for an update guys, and this is a big one.
So I started a new chemical mixture, peppermint and st johns wort and the effectiveness was over the top.
dose one hand of peppermint and one hand of st johns wort leaves steeped in boiling water for ten mins.
Side Effects Harder to fall asleep
Sleep Duration 9hrs
WBTB Deild
Lucid Yes or no, I don't remember if it happened after I lost lucidity or I started a new dream.
Vividness Great
Stability good
Dream Comments: Your definition of sexual dream cannot be applied to what I have eperienced, I repeat cannot. It was so sexual I'm not gonna post what happened because it would make the internet seem like a safe place. Just know that before menthol I have only remembered about 3 sexual dreams, I already noted an increase with menthol and now this. I advise everyone to try it, seriously.

This is pretty much what I was going for when I tried the combination before. X) I ended up taking way too much though on impulse and barely even got any sleep because there were too many side effects. (By the way, try not to take too much lol.) The only time I've experimented successfully with St. John's wort for dreams, my night was completely filled with movie-plot-esque romantic storylines with lots of excitement and beautiful imagery. Since it was just one night it was hard to say if that would be the norm for me, but I've really been wondering how the effect would mix with menthol. >w< I bet it would turn my dreams into some kind of sensual fantasy wonderland. For a guy, I can only imagine.... Well, maybe it's better you didn't go into detail with yours.

Now I really want to try this combo again. Rather than sticking to my hypericin extracts or my Amoryn (since it has so many other things in it as well), I think I might go try to find this old tea shop I used to go to years ago. I'm pretty sure they stocked St. John's wort there....

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Time for an update guys, and this is a big one.
So I started a new chemical mixture, peppermint and st johns wort and the effectiveness was over the top.
dose one hand of peppermint and one hand of st johns wort leaves steeped in boiling water for ten mins.
Side Effects Harder to fall asleep
Sleep Duration 9hrs
WBTB Deild
Lucid Yes or no, I don't remember if it happened after I lost lucidity or I started a new dream.
Vividness Great
Stability good
Dream Comments: Your definition of sexual dream cannot be applied to what I have eperienced, I repeat cannot. It was so sexual I'm not gonna post what happened because it would make the internet seem like a safe place. Just know that before menthol I have only remembered about 3 sexual dreams, I already noted an increase with menthol and now this. I advise everyone to try it, seriously.

TELL ME DETAILS HOW I DO THIS. WHAT KIND OF PEPPERMINT AND WHERE DO I GET ST JOHNS WORT LOL...
hahahahhaa...
no but seriously????

Originally Posted by Chrisito

TELL ME DETAILS HOW I DO THIS. WHAT KIND OF PEPPERMINT AND WHERE DO I GET ST JOHNS WORT LOL...
hahahahhaa...
no but seriously????

Any regular peppermint tea will do. As will peppermint candies, certain cough drops, essentials oils, etc... anything that has menthol. I would personally recommend the peppermint tea as the main method, though. Menthol alone seems to be correlated with an increase in sexual dreams. The St. John's wort probably adds a more intense plot to it. Some places just sell St. John's wort tea, but how easily you can find it probably depends a lot on where you live. Many pharmacies also have it as an over-the-counter antidepressant, but I'm betting that the actual plant or tea would be more effective. If push comes to shove, you can get it online at a lot of places.

Originally Posted by Chrisito

TELL ME DETAILS HOW I DO THIS. WHAT KIND OF PEPPERMINT AND WHERE DO I GET ST JOHNS WORT LOL...
hahahahhaa...
no but seriously????

Hahaha I knew my post would attract customers
I do agree fully with alyzarin though. Getting the actual tea of both is the best, not just any tea (it has to be in a canister not in a teabag). Also the st johns wort has to be only the leaves and not the flower so make a note of that too.

Side note: for a complete wacky aggresive experience you will want to take pine pollen during WTBT. Viking's used to do this because it increases your adrenaline lievels in your body. Wouldn't mind trying it before a dream.

Ok so i don't look for Peppermint tea bags only the leaves ??? and same with St Johns Wort ??
what about if i take the stuff outta the tea bags lol.

Originally Posted by Chrisito

Ok so i don't look for Peppermint tea bags only the leaves ??? and same with St Johns Wort ??
what about if i take the stuff outta the tea bags lol.

You could but it wouldn't be as potent,the st johns wort would be fine from a bag because its a medicinal herb but usually the mint tea you buy in bags is quite weak and made only for the flavour, unless you buy it from a special place Ie not your local supermarket but your local hippie herb shop place.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Side note: for a complete wacky aggresive experience you will want to take pine pollen during WTBT. Viking's used to do this because it increases your adrenaline lievels in your body. Wouldn't mind trying it before a dream.

You might want to be careful with how much of that you use. Adrenaline directly inhibits REM sleep.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

You might want to be careful with how much of that you use. Adrenaline directly inhibits REM sleep.

Interesting, I haven't spent much time researching it yet but I'll look into it tonight.

Has anyone ever tried BEROCCA before bed??? that has load of b-vitamins in it? i was thinking about trying it but thought i might ask?
might just make a post for it see if anyone has experimented with it..

It would probably enhance your dreams, but I know that it also wakes you up, and any stimulants would probably be bad to your Rem Sleep (like my adrenaline ides )

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

It would probably enhance your dreams, but I know that it also wakes you up, and any stimulants would probably be bad to your Rem Sleep (like my adrenaline ides )

I have found that Sex on the night beforhand always helps me. I always get a good night's sleep after, probably due to the 'happy chemicals' and endorphines released into my bloodstream, not to mention the exercise.

I know it's a bit TMI. But hey, if it's not broke, then it don't need fixing!

I wouldn't be surprised, if you look at anti-depressants they nearly all have sexual side effects. It's such a primal action and linked with many parts of your brain I could imagine the great effects it could have.