Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Sat July 21st 2012

Dose: x2 Menthol cough drops = 10-20 mg?, x2 cups (0.75 pt total) Apple Juice.*(Staged)
Side Effects: Deeper sleep, Erection
Sleep Duration: 4.5 - 5 hrs/3 hrs after (Total = 7.5 – 8 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (40 min) 15 min (physical) exercise
Lucid: YES (Part)
Vividness: Typical (Tactile)
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: No early dreams reported. Odd bit of reverie post WBTB. A highly sexual dream where I was lucid at one point. An intense, memorable experience. Tactile. Libido increase!!!
*(11.33 pm 0.5 pt AJ, WBTB x2 drops, 0.25 pt AJ)

A Seduction (Sex) Dream – Part lucid - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Aw man, so close. X) I wonder what the cause of it is?

Originally Posted by r11bit

Apparently there are a lot of people who, after dreaming of poop have come into a large sum of money or won the lottery...
So whenever you mention having a dream of feces in my family you'll usually be told to go play the lottery.

Solved! That's four nights in a row. I'm buying a lotto ticket!

Giddity, giddity, goo. Aaaaaalllright!

^ Or maybe you just have a fetish o.o


July 21st and 22nd:

Dose: None
Side Effects: None
Sleep Duration: 9 to 10 hours
WBTB: Yes once, but didn't help
Lucid: No
Vividness: Usual
Stability: Usual
Dream Comments:

Well, two days now without menthol... i had some interesting dreams, but they weren't tooo weird to blame it on the menthol. I also had no lucids, because i'm stressed about them a bit now

Sun July 21st 2012

Dose: x2 Menthol (H & Lem) cough drops = 19.4 mg, x1 cups (>0.5 pt) Apple Juice
Side Effects: Deeper sleep (initially), Erection
Sleep Duration: 5 hrs/2.75 hrs after (Total = 7.75 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (36 min) 15 min (physical) exercise
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Average recall. General snippets and short dreams throughout. A light sleep later on. Sexual dream. Libido increase.


Prince Charles (dead). The GF, in bed, etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

That's why I'm glad that people are becoming lucid from menthol, but I'm personally much more excited about the sexual effects.

Yes I agree, I can Deild whenever I want so I never feel that the menthol has much effect on my lucid dreaming, I'm more about seeing the effects on non-lucids for me, experienceing the increased logical and sexual parts to my dream.

Originally Posted by RobStar

Sat July 21st 2012

Dose: x2 Menthol cough drops = 10-20 mg?, x2 cups (0.75 pt total) Apple Juice.*(Staged)
Side Effects: Deeper sleep, Erection
Sleep Duration: 4.5 - 5 hrs/3 hrs after (Total = 7.5 – 8 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (40 min) 15 min (physical) exercise
Lucid: YES (Part)
Vividness: Typical (Tactile)
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: No early dreams reported. Odd bit of reverie post WBTB. A highly sexual dream where I was lucid at one point. An intense, memorable experience. Tactile. Libido increase!!!
*(11.33 pm 0.5 pt AJ, WBTB x2 drops, 0.25 pt AJ)

A Seduction (Sex) Dream – Part lucid - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Good to see that the sexual effects are still going strong. X) That one sounded intense.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

July 21st and 22nd:

Dose: None
Side Effects: None
Sleep Duration: 9 to 10 hours
WBTB: Yes once, but didn't help
Lucid: No
Vividness: Usual
Stability: Usual
Dream Comments:

Well, two days now without menthol... i had some interesting dreams, but they weren't tooo weird to blame it on the menthol. I also had no lucids, because i'm stressed about them a bit now

Hmm... so have you noticed any lack of themes now that you're not taking it? Like, now that you have normal dreams to compare it to again, can you tell if the menthol was really adding much?

Originally Posted by RobStar

Sun July 21st 2012

Dose: x2 Menthol (H & Lem) cough drops = 19.4 mg, x1 cups (>0.5 pt) Apple Juice
Side Effects: Deeper sleep (initially), Erection
Sleep Duration: 5 hrs/2.75 hrs after (Total = 7.75 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (36 min) 15 min (physical) exercise
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Average recall. General snippets and short dreams throughout. A light sleep later on. Sexual dream. Libido increase.


Prince Charles (dead). The GF, in bed, etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

And here they are again. I'm glad you can get them so consistently, it gives me hope.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Yes I agree, I can Deild whenever I want so I never feel that the menthol has much effect on my lucid dreaming, I'm more about seeing the effects on non-lucids for me, experienceing the increased logical and sexual parts to my dream.

Yep yep. One thing I really like about the sexual effects (at least for me) is that they make me more impulsive... which, in any dream really but especially in a lucid, gives me more control; it has that sense that everything in the dream just starts to mold correctly around my will without me having to actually really think about it. It feels kind of psychedelic in that way.... I love it. >w<

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Hmm... so have you noticed any lack of themes now that you're not taking it? Like, now that you have normal dreams to compare it to again, can you tell if the menthol was really adding much?

Hmm well not really... but after all the menthol didn't seem to affect me other than the increased times of becoming lucid... and some slight sexual/sensual theme in them... but in my regular dreams everything seems the same to me.

Took a few Menthol Eucalyptus Halls before sleep last night. Increase in dream vividness and more importantly, I had far more interesting dreams. Also a noticeable increase in libido prior to reading this thread, therefore ruling out the placebo effect. Also, on a more noticeable note, despite the inability to fall asleep and other interruptions - I had greater-than-expected recall. That was day 1

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Hmm well not really... but after all the menthol didn't seem to affect me other than the increased times of becoming lucid... and some slight sexual/sensual theme in them... but in my regular dreams everything seems the same to me.

Ah, I see, I see.... Well, what do you think about the sexual themes then? How often exactly were you getting that effect? It seems like you might still want a higher dose for something more significant. You could go all out and eat four or five candies.

Originally Posted by LucidAvenger

Took a few Menthol Eucalyptus Halls before sleep last night. Increase in dream vividness and more importantly, I had far more interesting dreams. Also a noticeable increase in libido prior to reading this thread, therefore ruling out the placebo effect. Also, on a more noticeable note, despite the inability to fall asleep and other interruptions - I had greater-than-expected recall. That was day 1

Awesome! Welcome to the experiment. I love the increase in sexual dreams, it's so interesting to explore. >w< I'm gonna have to take some tonight... I want to see what else I can get out of it. Do you know the exact dose you took?

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Ah, I see, I see.... Well, what do you think about the sexual themes then? How often exactly were you getting that effect? It seems like you might still want a higher dose for something more significant. You could go all out and eat four or five candies.

Well, the sexual themes in my regular dreams didn't seem to appear more often than otherwise. I rarely have dreams like that, but i didn't have an increased number of them during the menthol tests.

As for a bigger dose... you know i totally forgot that o.o Hopefully i can get my hands on some Negro tomorrow, so i'll be able to try again with a bigger dose... maybe i would really need more for true effects.

Hm. I've had no sexual dreams and my doses are usually around 3-4 extra strong halls..>.>
Had nothing to report for a day (or two, I have no sense of time right now), no recall.

Dose: 4 Halls extra strongs 12mg/piece = 48mg
Side Effects: None.
Sleep Duration: ~9 hours.
WBTB: No.
Lucid: No.
Vividness: Scarily vivid..
Stability: High. I guess?
Dream Comments: I had interesting dreams, woke up straight from a dream, so, great recall n__n. The scary vividness..*shudder*..that was my friend's dog violently growling at me at a very close distance and holy crap that was scary.

Ever since the whole menthol thing, I've had pretty intense feelings in my dreams. Fear, horrible confusion, love (not dirty. sweet and pure :3) and fear again.

Originally Posted by Cookieh

Hm. I've had no sexual dreams and my doses are usually around 3-4 extra strong halls..>.>
Had nothing to report for a day (or two, I have no sense of time right now), no recall.

Dose: 4 Halls extra strongs 12mg/piece = 48mg
Side Effects: None.
Sleep Duration: ~9 hours.
WBTB: No.
Lucid: No.
Vividness: Scarily vivid..
Stability: High. I guess?
Dream Comments: I had interesting dreams, woke up straight from a dream, so, great recall n__n. The scary vividness..*shudder*..that was my friend's dog violently growling at me at a very close distance and holy crap that was scary.

Ever since the whole menthol thing, I've had pretty intense feelings in my dreams. Fear, horrible confusion, love (not dirty. sweet and pure :3) and fear again.

That's quite interesting, as the thread we originally used as inspiration was made by someone who was eating a large amount of cough drops every night and getting dreams that were scaring them due to how vivid they were, and mentioned lots of dark themes as well. I wonder if you've touched on that same effect....

I also like how you mention the sweet and pure love themes. :3 Much earlier in this thread there was a lot of discussion on how the sexual themes of the menthol dreams were often pure or clean, more sensual than just crazy, and sometimes they're just sensual without so much being sexual. It seems to be kind of a trend, though of course if you're lucid during it it becomes a bit more up to you how it goes.

I THINK that they are around 7mg/piece and i had about 3 (quite a while before bed).

Mon July 22nd 2012

Dose: x1 Peppermint tea, x5 H & Lem Menthol cough drops = 48.5 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water.*(Staged)
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 6.25 hrs approx / 2.25 hrs after (Total = 8.5 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (33 min) 15 min exercise
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: A deeper sleep (due to tiredness?) Poor recall initially. No dreams reported pre WBTB. Three dreamsigns missed. Post waking flashback.
*(10.30 pm x1 cup, 2.10 am x2 drops, WBTB x3 drops)

The Factory. The woman in my kitchen, and the night out - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I did expect a libido drop this morning and today due to the events yesterday evening; say no more!

(P.S: The Peppermint tea works in the waking world as well!!! )

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

That's quite interesting, as the thread we originally used as inspiration was made by someone who was eating a large amount of cough drops every night and getting dreams that were scaring them due to how vivid they were, and mentioned lots of dark themes as well. I wonder if you've touched on that same effect....

Hm. Awesome. Now, if it only got a bit more darker..>:D
Really, I'd like to finally have a serious nightmare.

Dose: 5 Halls extra strongs 12mg/piece = 60mg
Side Effects: None.
Sleep Duration: ~8,5h
WBTB: No.
Lucid: YUSS.
Vividness: Great :D
Stability: Normal.
Dream Comments: It was very vivid and I had control and all..there was this kind of love again. Nothing scary.

Finally got some Negro again today, but my mom bought some other type instead of the extra strong one... I tried it and it definitely tastes a lot weaker... so i don't know how much should i take from this... I don't really want to take 10... xD

Maybe it'll just eat this normally and buy an extra strong pack later...

Originally Posted by LucidAvenger

I THINK that they are around 7mg/piece and i had about 3 (quite a while before bed).

Ah, cool. Thanks! Have you thought about taking them a bit closer to bed? It would probably increase the effects a bit.

Originally Posted by RobStar

I did expect a libido drop this morning and today due to the events yesterday evening; say no more!

(P.S: The Peppermint tea works in the waking world as well!!! )

Good to know, good to know.

Originally Posted by Cookieh

Hm. Awesome. Now, if it only got a bit more dark..>
Really, I'd like to finally have a serious nightmare.

Dose: 5 Halls extra strongs 12mg/piece = 60mg
Side Effects: None.
Sleep Duration: ~8,5h
WBTB: No.
Lucid: YUSS.
Vividness: Great
Stability: Normal.
Dream Comments: It was very vivid and I had control and all..there was this kind of love again. Nothing scary.

You and Wolfwood. So it was the same love feeling as before? The commonly-reported sensual effects, perhaps?

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Finally got some Negro again today, but my mom bought some other type instead of the extra strong one... I tried it and it definitely tastes a lot weaker... so i don't know how much should i take from this... I don't really want to take 10... xD

Maybe it'll just eat this normally and buy an extra strong pack later...

Haha, yeah, I would probably wait for the stronger ones myself. The candies alone might cause more of a stomach ache than the menthol potentially would if you had to eat too many.

I feel really motivated and hyped up. I've just got hold of a pack of really strong Menthol lozenges so I'm going to give those a blast during WBTB. (If I wake up!)
I've had to take extra H2O on board as its gonna be a warm night.
I also have the problem of a south facing bedroom where I'm getting too much light which is causing me problems, even with the curtains closed.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Ah, cool. Thanks! Have you thought about taking them a bit closer to bed? It would probably increase the effects a bit.

I know this wasn't directed to me but I thought I'd share my experience since you mentioned this.

I did my usual 30 mg before bed (this was like... 2 weeks ago?) and I slept for six hours. I didn't experience the happiness glow-y feeling I have on every other occasion I've taken them. One difference I noticed was the other experiences I've done with menthol (which wasn't much, only 3 or 4 times total), those episodes were short spans of sleep (~4 hours or less).

So I do wonder if there's a time expiration involved.

I'll probably start trying this more. I'm not opposed to happy glow-y feelings.

Originally Posted by RobStar

I also have the problem of a south facing bedroom where I'm getting too much light which is causing me problems, even with the curtains closed.

I have a similar issue. One word: eyemask.

Ok, two words: eye mask.

Originally Posted by Kaomea

I know this wasn't directed to me but I thought I'd share my experience since you mentioned this.

I did my usual 30 mg before bed (this was like... 2 weeks ago?) and I slept for six hours. I didn't experience the happiness glow-y feeling I have on every other occasion I've taken them. One difference I noticed was the other experiences I've done with menthol (which wasn't much, only 3 or 4 times total), those episodes were short spans of sleep (~4 hours or less).

So I do wonder if there's a time expiration involved.

I'll probably start trying this more. I'm not opposed to happy glow-y feelings

That could be, as the half-life is fairly short. That's why I was originally saying it may be better suited for WBTB, even though I've only ever done it before bed. I feel that I may be particularly sensitive to its effects, though. But I'd say more than likely the more dreams you can get in soon after dosing the better effects you'll see.

You should start again! Who knows how deep the happy glow-y rabbit hole goes?

Tue July 24th 2012

Dose: x3 Extra strong Menthol cough drops = 47.4 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water, x1 Vitamin B6 = 10 mg
Side Effects: Insomnia, slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 4.5 hrs approx / 3 hrs after (Total = 7.5 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (35 min) 15 min exercise
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Average
Stability: Average
Dream Comments: Incubation attempt on retiring. No dreams reported pre WBTB. Very light sleep. Visuals and snippets. Top dreamsign recognised immediately. Lucidity with strong ‘energy’ feeling. (Energy effect due to the B6?)

Dad and the Phantom behind me - (lucid) - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Kaomea

I have a similar issue. One word: eyemask.

Ok, two words: eye mask.

Thanks for that. I will look out for one when I'm next down town. Currently I'm using an old t shirt which helps but isn't that practical.


Wed July 25th 2012

Dose: (x3 Extra strong Menthol cough drops = 47.4 mg) *(Staged), x1 cup (0.25pt) Apple Juice and Water. x2 Vitamin B6 = 20mg
Side Effects: Gripey stomach
Sleep Duration: 5.25 hrs/ 3.25 hrs after (Total = 8.5 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (30 min) 10 min exercise
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Some visuals and reverie. Generally good dream storylines and recall although I did experience mental blocks upon waking with some. I experienced very poor sleep quality throughout the night probably due to the heat which resulted in feeling groggy and tired upon waking for the day. *( 1.53 am x1 drop, WBTB x2 drops)

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/robs...lub-etc-36328/

Thur July 26th 2012

Dose: x2 Extra strong Menthol cough drops = 31.6 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Water
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 6 hrs approx / 2.25 hrs after (Total = 8.25 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (30 min)
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Average
Stability: Average
Dream Comments: Two main dreams reported pre WBTB. Good recall. Incubation attempt at WBTB. Very light sleep. Visuals and snippets. Awareness with short lucidity. Unable to sleep early on due to the heat.

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Originally Posted by RobStar

Thur July 26th 2012

Dose: x2 Extra strong Menthol cough drops = 31.6 mg, x1 cup (0.25pt) Water
Side Effects: Slight stomach griping (Gastric wind)
Sleep Duration: 6 hrs approx / 2.25 hrs after (Total = 8.25 hrs)
WBTB: Yes (30 min)
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Average
Stability: Average
Dream Comments: Two main dreams reported pre WBTB. Good recall. Incubation attempt at WBTB. Very light sleep. Visuals and snippets. Awareness with short lucidity. Unable to sleep early on due to the heat.

The football fan, surname, R.E.M. etc - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

You wouldn't happen to be keeping track of how many times you've gotten lucid with this have you? It seems like you're getting lucid a lot!

I really need to try the menthol again, but I've been really distracted lately. I checked out the stores too and none of the scales are accurate enough to use safely, I'm going to have to buy one online to dose out my pure crystals. >w< I'm thinking about adding them to the stack I'm using right now soon, with all the vitamins. I'll bet they'd make for a cool combo.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

You wouldn't happen to be keeping track of how many times you've gotten lucid with this have you? It seems like you're getting lucid a lot!

Over the course of 22 days I had 10 lucids. (This includes the two days where I had a dry WBTB weekend.)
Three of the lucids were highly memorable - where in one I even got laid!


(P.S: I noticed that I have made a couple of big date typo's regarding the posts for the dreams of Sun July 22nd and Mon July 23rd respectively - This error has been corrected in the dream journal entries for those dates. Obviously I'm unable to edit the original posts now. Note they are not duplicated; they are seperate.)