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      Success again! I'm starting to feel a bit bad for having so many lucids lately... but i should just be happy with them :s

      Dose: 3 Negros (unknown dose)
      Side Effects: Painful Stomachache, but i could get rid of it after a while, gladly
      Sleep Duration: I think 1 hour or so after taking the candy
      WBTB: Yes
      Lucid: Yes
      Vividness: Usual
      Stability: Worse than usual
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      The stomachache was more serious now than usually, but that's probably related to the fact that i ate too much yesterday and the candy just made it worse xD

      I don't want to spoil the lucid, but there was a really weird part and a somewhat less weirder, but still weird part...
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      That monster reminds me an awful lot of the turmgait from penumbra hmmm....

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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      That monster reminds me an awful lot of the turmgait from penumbra hmmm....
      But the tuurngait have upper parts
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      Ya but I mean with the whole love thing, it's such a paradox.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      Ya but I mean with the whole love thing, it's such a paradox.
      Oh yeah, hah. I couldn't finish Penumbra because it was crashing on me at the snowy parts... so i didn't really know much about the tuurngait
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      Finally, he shoots...he scores!

      Tue July 17th 2012

      Dose: 6 bags of Peppermint tea *(Staged)
      Side Effects: Insomnia, Erection (Late night / Early Morning)
      Sleep Duration: Approx 5 hrs / 2.5 hrs / 1.25 hrs after (Total = 8.75 hrs)
      WBTB: Yes (Two periods)
      Lucid: Yes (One)
      Vividness: Average
      Stability: Poor
      Dream Comments: No early dreams recalled. Reverie and snippets throughout. Very poor / no sleep after first WBTB. Short lucid dream very late in morning after second WBTB. Stomach generally ok.
      *( 10.00 pm x1, 11.55 pm x2, WBTB1 5.20 am x2 STRONG, WBTB2 8.30 am x1)

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      Have been trying menthol for a few days and yesterday I had succes! After the first few attempts it seemed menthol was a NO dream enhancher because I hadn't remembered my dreams. Last night I had a 2 hour pre-sleep, was awake for 2,5 hours, took a menthol (11,8 mg) and went to sleep 45 minutes later. I felt different when I was falling asleep, lots of vivid visuals and stuff, I had a long DILD (first lucid after 2 months without any) and even had a succesfull DEILD (first time ever)
      I'm very happy and will try it again tonight
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      Dose: 1/8 teaspoon Peppermint Oil
      Side Effects: Constipation.
      Sleep Duration: 3.5 hours
      WBTB: No
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: High
      Stability: NA
      Dream Comments: Since peppermint oil (2 night) I have been waking up in the first 3.5 to 4 hours with excellent recall of the dream I wake from. The dreams are not particularly abnormal for me. I will try a proper WBTB dose tonight at the times I have been waking initially.
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      Dose: My last two tablets of Halls Lemon Cough Drops (9.8 mg each)
      Side Effects: None
      Sleep Duration: 2-3 hours (I took a nap around 2:50 PM or so, and woke up around 5 PM)
      WBTB: No
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: None
      Stability: None
      Dream Comments: I decided to take the last two cough drops I had. For a nap, I tried to actually take this thing seriously. I used an all-in-one countdown program called "Free Countdown Timer." I set a countdown for 15 minutes, then another to activate after 15 minutes. Then I had another one before those two that would alert me around 1 hour or so.

      I set the alarm to where each would only loop once, and it's an alarm sound that I've grown accustomed to, the same one I used when I participated in OpheliaBlue's and f0rceez's classes. I've run out of sources of Menthol, but maybe I can drink some Peppermint Tea or something like a few others are doing in this thread.

      BUT, I've noticed that I was extremely calm during the process of trying to sleep. I remembered a video I watched on how to conquer the Swallowing Reflex when trying to do a WILD after a WBTB or a nap (or for a WBTB combined any technique)

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      Basically, if you don't want to watch the video (which is less than 2 minutes of your time), You get two or more pillow to prop your head and neck at an angle (like a tilted "L" leaning backwards), and then use a small pillow or any regular pillow to slide under your jaw, so that you wouldn't have to be conscious of keeping your jaw closed.

      The cough drops relaxed both nasal pathways for me, and while I'm in the position to prevent the swallowing reflex from occurring, I just counted upwards, and continued to do so until I couldn't remember what number I was on. When that happened, I started from "1" again and went back up.

      I heard the alarm trigger for the 15 minute mark, kept my eyes closed, remained calm, and continued to count. Same for the second 15 minute mark I set for the nap. As for the 1 hour one, I believe I heard it, but I slept again, which is why I woke up around 5PM later on.

      I'll be doing this method during a WBTB, since I'm pretty sure this alarm isn't going to startle me anymore since I've been growing used to it for the CANWILD technique (the process of the technique rather than the concept behind it).

      Anyway, good luck to those who are able to find Menthol sources, I hope I get get some in the near future.

      What's funny is that whether or not I'm taking Menthol, I am dreaming of Alyzarin more, the recent dream journal entry I had for today was in fact a sexual one, though I didn't take any Halls Cough Drops before sleep or during a WBTB.

      I guess it's just emotional factors and other things that caused the sexual one to occur.

      Eh. Oh and also, I don't recall any dreams from the nap.
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      Quote Originally Posted by alyzarin View Post
      alright, here's what i got for last night, from one cup of peppermint tea. Not too bad, if i do say so myself. The lucid still had the same kind of ending as they have each time....

      dj entry - pso2 just got even better, taking off my robe
      *drinks 10 litres of peppermint tea* dayum!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda View Post
      I am dreaming of Alyzarin more, the recent dream journal entry I had for today was in fact a sexual one(
      Really? You're just going to say that for all of us to read? LOL.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xanous View Post
      Really? You're just going to say that for all of us to read? LOL.
      When she first liked one of my comments, I just knew it was love at first sight.


















      No, but really, it's going to show up on a DJ entry sooner or later, I'm not embarrassed or shy about it at all.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wolfwood View Post
      So that guy in your posts consumed a whole pack with each containing 8.6mg when he experienced mentally real nightmares. I'd guess a whole pack contains at least 7-8 sweets, which approximates to the amount I'll ingest.

      Demons beware.
      Sorry for coming so late, but if you eat that much of menthol , you wont get nightmares, you will just be going to take a really really big crap
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      Yeah i will give this a crack tonight. Bought me some Vicks Vapo Drops today.
      They have 10.? of menthol so im set i reckon..
      will just try doing it at WBTB stage i think..
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      Dose: 3 Negros (unknown dose)
      Side Effects: Nothing
      Sleep Duration: 3 hours or so after taking candy
      WBTB: Yes
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: Usual
      Stability: Can't Tell
      Dream Comments:

      Well, i couldn't get a lucid tonight... shame, because i planned to fight Lucy... Well, there's always tomorrow ^^

      I'm starting to think that Negro works this well because i'm always so hyped for the next lucid and i truly believe it that i'll have one. These all together help more than if i would just take the candy and wait for the wonders

      But today i had some doubts... probably the reason why i didn't get one
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      Dose: 30g Dutchraptor's lucidity potion (It should contain around 30mg of menthol and 30mg of menthone)
      Side Effects: None
      Sleep Duration: 9 hours
      WBTB: Nope
      Lucid: Nope
      Vividness: Medium-high
      Stability: Medium
      Dream Comments: A very weird dream, but like always it had a heap of sexual content and ended with a satisfying twist in the story. Success I say.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda View Post
      When she first liked one of my comments, I just knew it was love at first sight.


















      No, but really, it's going to show up on a DJ entry sooner or later, I'm not embarrassed or shy about it at all.
      Its cool I was just a little shocked and had to tease. I think we all share a little too much in our DJs. LOL.
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      Wed July 18th 2012

      Dose: x5 Menthol cough drops = 25-50 mg?, x2 bags of Peppermint tea *(Staged)
      Side Effects: Light sleep, Stomach upset (Gastric)
      Sleep Duration: 4.5 hrs/2.5 hrs/2 hrs after (Total = 9 hrs)
      WBTB: Yes (Two periods)
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: Typical
      Stability: Typical
      Dream Comments: Sexual. Very strong bursts of reverie, snippets and associated automatic visuals. Good recall noted. Slight headache and feeling dehydrated. Erection (due to full bladder?)
      *( 12.00 am x1 drop, 4,15 am x1 drop, WBTB1 5.03 am x2 drop, x1 bag STRONG, WBTB2 8.00 am x1 drop, x1 bag)

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      Mmkay, hey everybody. I thought I'd play around a little as well, Littlezoe is responsible for this.

      Last night I took two extra strong (5 on a scale of 1-5) Halls cough drops and had this vivid dream about a murderer following me around. Now, I got myself some more and..yeah, I'm gonna try and see what happens tonight. I think I'm gonna try with 3 or 4 pieces and if I'm not too lazy, then WBTB as well.
      It doesn't say anything about mg's of menthol, but it definitely has some in it.
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      This project certainly is popular
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      Dose: 1\8 teaspoon peppermint oil
      Side Effects: None
      Sleep Duration: woke from vivid dream after 30 min. Then slept another 3.5 hours
      WBTB: Yes after 4 hours sleep
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: Very High
      Stability: Medium
      Dream Comments: Definitively more vivid. Elements of inducing LD inside the dream. Very long and detailed dreams.

      I may increase the dose and put a greater effort in to one of my induction techniques. I was shocked that I had such a vividly detailed dream within 30 min of WBTB dose.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      This project certainly is popular
      Because it works. Not necessarily a lucid aid but definitively a dream enhancer. I think I am close to finding what works for me. Tonight it will happen.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xanous View Post
      Because it works. Not necessarily a lucid aid but definitively a dream enhancer. I think I am close to finding what works for me. Tonight it will happen.
      It's a lucid aid for me, lol. It doesn't even make my dreams more vivid =o
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      Dose: 2 x 10mg Menthol Vicks Vapodrops
      Side Effects: My throat feels sore this morning (hahahaa gave me an opposite effect?)
      Sleep Duration: 10.00pm - 3:10am Awake by alarm for 30 minutes and back to sleep 3:40Am -(5:30Am-6:00am?) (normal awakening)
      WBTB: Yes as above
      Lucid: Yes
      Vividness: Low
      Stability: Low to Medium
      Dream Comments: My recall is pretty crappy for this one i can remember more fragments than anything, i do remember becoming lucid and having to fight this guy shooting energy balls and charging them up in my hand which was awesome and also LOOKED awesome haven't been able to do that before. But realistically i don't think it was anything to do with the menthol. I always use Autosuggestion before bed and during my WBTB also, which i think may be the cause.
      None the less i will try again tonight, maybe i will get that rebound effect from it being in my system and have the sexual dreams lol... *waits patiently*..
      I've also been tiny bit stressed because my manager at work wants to put me on performance management but i try not let that effect my personal life. Gotta stay positive
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      Wowza, this thread is doing great by itself. I'm so happy you guys are all so dedicated. :') I've been caught up in a lot of unplanned stuff for the last few days. >w< I'm gonna have to read through all these entries, for now I'm just going to respond to the posts!

      Quote Originally Posted by littlezoe View Post
      Success again! I'm starting to feel a bit bad for having so many lucids lately... but i should just be happy with them :s

      Dose: 3 Negros (unknown dose)
      Side Effects: Painful Stomachache, but i could get rid of it after a while, gladly
      Sleep Duration: I think 1 hour or so after taking the candy
      WBTB: Yes
      Lucid: Yes
      Vividness: Usual
      Stability: Worse than usual
      Dream Comments:

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      The stomachache was more serious now than usually, but that's probably related to the fact that i ate too much yesterday and the candy just made it worse xD

      I don't want to spoil the lucid, but there was a really weird part and a somewhat less weirder, but still weird part...
      You feel bad for having too many lucids? Too much indulgence? But isn't isn't frequent inlimited power awesome?

      Quote Originally Posted by Chicken View Post
      Have been trying menthol for a few days and yesterday I had succes! After the first few attempts it seemed menthol was a NO dream enhancher because I hadn't remembered my dreams. Last night I had a 2 hour pre-sleep, was awake for 2,5 hours, took a menthol (11,8 mg) and went to sleep 45 minutes later. I felt different when I was falling asleep, lots of vivid visuals and stuff, I had a long DILD (first lucid after 2 months without any) and even had a succesfull DEILD (first time ever)
      I'm very happy and will try it again tonight
      Awesome! Welcome, and glad it's helped you so far.

      Quote Originally Posted by Chrisito View Post
      *drinks 10 litres of peppermint tea* dayum!
      That was a fun night.

      Quote Originally Posted by littlezoe View Post
      Dose: 3 Negros (unknown dose)
      Side Effects: Nothing
      Sleep Duration: 3 hours or so after taking candy
      WBTB: Yes
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: Usual
      Stability: Can't Tell
      Dream Comments:

      Well, i couldn't get a lucid tonight... shame, because i planned to fight Lucy... Well, there's always tomorrow ^^

      I'm starting to think that Negro works this well because i'm always so hyped for the next lucid and i truly believe it that i'll have one. These all together help more than if i would just take the candy and wait for the wonders

      But today i had some doubts... probably the reason why i didn't get one
      A positive attitude will certainly help. Just stop doubting that it'll work!

      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      Dose: 30g Dutchraptor's lucidity potion (It should contain around 30mg of menthol and 30mg of menthone)
      Side Effects: None
      Sleep Duration: 9 hours
      WBTB: Nope
      Lucid: Nope
      Vividness: Medium-high
      Stability: Medium
      Dream Comments: A very weird dream, but like always it had a heap of sexual content and ended with a satisfying twist in the story. Success I say.
      I love it when sexual dreams are reported, it makes me excited to sleep every time. X)

      Quote Originally Posted by RobStar View Post
      Wed July 18th 2012

      Dose: x5 Menthol cough drops = 25-50 mg?, x2 bags of Peppermint tea *(Staged)
      Side Effects: Light sleep, Stomach upset (Gastric)
      Sleep Duration: 4.5 hrs/2.5 hrs/2 hrs after (Total = 9 hrs)
      WBTB: Yes (Two periods)
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: Typical
      Stability: Typical
      Dream Comments: Sexual. Very strong bursts of reverie, snippets and associated automatic visuals. Good recall noted. Slight headache and feeling dehydrated. Erection (due to full bladder?)
      *( 12.00 am x1 drop, 4,15 am x1 drop, WBTB1 5.03 am x2 drop, x1 bag STRONG, WBTB2 8.00 am x1 drop, x1 bag)

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      Sounds like a good night! You keep mentioning the erections... have you ever considered that it might be because of the vasodilation that I mentioned before? It's possible that how hard you get could be a sign of how well the menthol's working.

      Quote Originally Posted by Cookieh View Post
      Mmkay, hey everybody. I thought I'd play around a little as well, Littlezoe is responsible for this.

      Last night I took two extra strong (5 on a scale of 1-5) Halls cough drops and had this vivid dream about a murderer following me around. Now, I got myself some more and..yeah, I'm gonna try and see what happens tonight. I think I'm gonna try with 3 or 4 pieces and if I'm not too lazy, then WBTB as well.
      It doesn't say anything about mg's of menthol, but it definitely has some in it.
      Hey Cookieh! That dream sounds intense! :O I'm looking forward to hearing what else you have to report!

      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      This project certainly is popular
      I know, isn't it wonderful? >w<

      Quote Originally Posted by Xanous View Post
      Dose: 1\8 teaspoon peppermint oil
      Side Effects: None
      Sleep Duration: woke from vivid dream after 30 min. Then slept another 3.5 hours
      WBTB: Yes after 4 hours sleep
      Lucid: No
      Vividness: Very High
      Stability: Medium
      Dream Comments: Definitively more vivid. Elements of inducing LD inside the dream. Very long and detailed dreams.

      I may increase the dose and put a greater effort in to one of my induction techniques. I was shocked that I had such a vividly detailed dream within 30 min of WBTB dose.
      I'm glad you got something out of it! Hopefully the trend will continue!

      Quote Originally Posted by Chrisito View Post
      Dose: 2 x 10mg Menthol Vicks Vapodrops
      Side Effects: My throat feels sore this morning (hahahaa gave me an opposite effect?)
      Sleep Duration: 10.00pm - 3:10am Awake by alarm for 30 minutes and back to sleep 3:40Am -(5:30Am-6:00am?) (normal awakening)
      WBTB: Yes as above
      Lucid: Yes
      Vividness: Low
      Stability: Low to Medium
      Dream Comments: My recall is pretty crappy for this one i can remember more fragments than anything, i do remember becoming lucid and having to fight this guy shooting energy balls and charging them up in my hand which was awesome and also LOOKED awesome haven't been able to do that before. But realistically i don't think it was anything to do with the menthol. I always use Autosuggestion before bed and during my WBTB also, which i think may be the cause.
      None the less i will try again tonight, maybe i will get that rebound effect from it being in my system and have the sexual dreams lol... *waits patiently*..
      I've also been tiny bit stressed because my manager at work wants to put me on performance management but i try not let that effect my personal life. Gotta stay positive
      I await your further results. At least you had a lucid even if the dream didn't seem too menthol-enhanced, it's a good away to start off the experiment!

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