Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Originally Posted by RobStar

The sweets take a while to digest/masticate (yes as in chewing! ) so taking them quickly is difficult unless I crush them or something beforehand.

Typical sleep period after WBTB = 2.5 to 3.25 hrs (Quality varies. Broken sleep, etc.)

P.S: I will use the template from now on & try to compile my previous results as well. (I will have to add dates with those however.)
Cool dreams by the way!

Understandable. Which ones are you using again? The honey-lemon Halls? Because believe it or not, they're actually pretty chewable right off the bat. I got tired of waiting around when I was using them so I gave it a shot, they get crushed up pretty easily. Of course, then you have a rush of nasty coldness.

With that time frame, it's hard to say. The spaced out doses might actually be doing you good, but we won't know for sure until you've changed up your routine a bit.

Awesome, it's much obliged! And thanks, my dreams were okay. =P I wish I could remember the food better, though. >w<

Originally Posted by Carrot

Wait. So you guys are chewing sweets when you wake up for a WBTB? Or you consume them before you sleep? Or both?

at the increase of sexual dreams.

Yes to all of that. Mint candies, menthol cough drops, peppermint tea... whatever works. You should join in too if you can get some. *nudge nudge*

Originally Posted by Thena

I've been watching this thread with some interesting because of a weird experience I had last week. I have a regular problem with sore throats. When I had one last Wednesday, I was chowing down on sore throat lozenges throughout the day. I can't remember how many I had, but I had some vivid, very interesting dreams the following night, including a part where a girl whipped off her top, jumped into my lap, and started giving me a lap dance.

I'll see what else I can contribute. I tried taking a single lozenge during my WBTB this morning, but I dozed off before it fully dissolved.

Sweet, that's a great first contribution to the thread! Man, frickin' menthol.... Well, welcome to the experiment! I look forward to reading more of your experiences.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Understandable. Which ones are you using again? The honey-lemon Halls? Because believe it or not, they're actually pretty chewable right off the bat. I got tired of waiting around when I was using them so I gave it a shot, they get crushed up pretty easily. Of course, then you have a rush of nasty coldness.

With that time frame, it's hard to say. The spaced out doses might actually be doing you good, but we won't know for sure until you've changed up your routine a bit.

Awesome, it's much obliged! And thanks, my dreams were okay. =P I wish I could remember the food better, though. >w<

Yep, I'm on Honey and Lemon Lockets. I think they are similar except the Halls are like a flat square shaped sweet, whereas these are shaped like an oval. They have a nice taste though.
I have now got some 'extra strong' Lockets. Basically the same with no honey, etc. They have 15.8mg Menthol per sweet!

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Yes to all of that. Mint candies, menthol cough drops, peppermint tea... whatever works. You should join in too if you can get some. *nudge nudge*

I think I have some sore throat sweets at home... I'll think about it. Somehow I find it unnatural to dream using a dream enhancer but I think it wouldn't hurt for a couple of days. I used to be able to induce people into my dreams by overthinking about them.

Originally Posted by Carrot

I think I have some sore throat sweets at home... I'll think about it. Somehow I find it unnatural to dream using a dream enhancer but I think it wouldn't hurt for a couple of days. I used to be able to induce people into my dreams by overthinking about them.

You are right about inducing people by (over) thinking about them. I get that too. The only problem I find (which hurts) with it is when you wake up and you cannot see or talk to them no more in real life. It can be a good or bad thing depending on the situation and the person/people involved.

I also prefer 'natural' lucid dreams. I used to get them when I was a teenager, but quite rarely however. Frequency about two a year. I found out I was actually doing the odd WBTB, (via a simple toilet break) before I even knew such things. I now try things like Apple Juice, etc. but I do draw the line with certain things. My LD frequency is probably about averaging 1 to 4 a week. Now I'm getting about 1 every 2 days or so, but that is with hard effort, etc.
I'd say if your not comfortable with it then keep with what works for you rather than be unsure. Check what it says on the packet, check ALL the ingredients to make sure you are not sensitive or allergic to anything. However if you have taken them before ok then that should rule that out.

I like you have my reservations. However when I looked on the other side of the coin where I thought about what 'foods' and drinks I was having in the day that have E numbers and additives like saccharins, tartrazine, artificial colourings in our daily diet, plus the sugar and salt then I didn't think too much of it. IMO.
Even our water has got artificial additives in it.

Originally Posted by RobStar

Yep, I'm on Honey and Lemon Lockets. I think they are similar except the Halls are like a flat square shaped sweet, whereas these are shaped like an oval. They have a nice taste though.
I have now got some 'extra strong' Lockets. Basically the same with no honey, etc. They have 15.8mg Menthol per sweet!

Ah, gotcha. Hehe, you're gonna be getting some crazy dreams now. What's that, an extra... 1.something milligrams?

Originally Posted by Carrot

I think I have some sore throat sweets at home... I'll think about it. Somehow I find it unnatural to dream using a dream enhancer but I think it wouldn't hurt for a couple of days. I used to be able to induce people into my dreams by overthinking about them.

Lucky! My incubation skills aren't that great. My dreams are mostly random. Yeah, I understand not wanting to use enhancers... I do like having pure dreams as well. You don't have to do it if you don't want to, but I'll look forward to your experiences if you do.

I thought about it the same way as Carrot before, that i don't want to use any enhancers to gain lucidity... but you know... if i can get a lucid almost everyday with basically just CANDY that i actually find tasty, then i'll sure take some ;D

Originally Posted by littlezoe

I thought about it the same way as Carrot before, that i don't want to use any enhancers to gain lucidity... but you know... if i can get a lucid almost everyday with basically just CANDY that i actually find tasty, then i'll sure take some ;D

You're really excited about these last two successes, huh?

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

You're really excited about these last two successes, huh?

Indeed! I'm so hyped that i'll surely have another lucid tomorrow ^^

Another reason I had for not doing this is a little strange. I tend not to eat anything after I brush my teeth. If I were to eat a sweet, brush my teeth, take up some time here and there I wonder how much of the effect of the sweet is left. o.O

Originally Posted by Carrot

Another reason I had for not doing this is a little strange. I tend not to eat anything after I brush my teeth. If I were to eat a sweet, brush my teeth, take up some time here and there I wonder how much of the effect of the sweet is left. o.O

You could always use mint-flavored toothpaste to give it that extra boost, just in case.

As long as you still did it pretty soon before bed, it probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. Alternatively, you could do it with a WBTB, which I imagine (though I may be wrong) you don't brush your teeth for.

Dang I don't have mint toothpaste, I just checked it. I'll check the fridge tomorrow to see if I have any menthol in any sweets.

Originally Posted by Carrot

Dang I don't have mint toothpaste, I just checked it. I'll check the fridge tomorrow to see if I have any menthol in any sweets.

lol.... so your fridge is stocked with sweets.

This should bring me bang up to date so far.


Tues July 10th 2012

Dose: 29.1mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia
Sleep Duration: 3.5 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: Dream incubated experiment worked well to a degree. Short visual scenes and reverie present. One flashback post waking.

Ex workmates, a CD, and a pair of black knickers - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views



Mon July 9th 2012

Dose: 29.1mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia
Sleep Duration: Less than 3 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: YES
Vividness: Good
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: A vivid lucid dream with storyline and interaction with dialogue. Memorable. Good recall of other dreams also.

The Weather, an Alsatian and the Phone Box - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views



Sun July 8th 2012

Dose: 29.1mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia and initial itchy distractions
Sleep Duration: Less than 3 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: No
Vividness: Good
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: High recall. A vivid long dream account plus several short dreams. Anxiety dreams. Reverie and visuals. A sexual theme.

Anxiety dreams, the House and the Factory, etc. - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views



Sat July 7th 2012

Dose: 38.8mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia and stomach upset. Mentally tired
Sleep Duration: About 2.5 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: Yes
Vividness: High
Stability: High
Dream Comments: Vivid lucid dream with story and dialogue. Several dreams recorded with above average recall. Memorable. Lots of visual, reverie and visual scenes. Upset after recounting lucid.

Dad, the Football, and some short dreams - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views



Fri July 6th 2012

Dose: 19.4 mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia and stomach upset. Tiredness
Sleep Duration: 2.5 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: No
Vividness: Typical
Stability: Typical
Dream Comments: SP type dream element. Average to good recall with reverie and visuals.

Finding a tenner. The Kitchen. Cleaning in the Hi-Fi cabinet - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views



Thur July 5th 2012

Dose: 19.4 mg Cough drops
Side Effects: Insomnia and stomach upset
Sleep Duration: 2.5 hrs after
WBTB: Yes
Lucid: Yes
Vividness: High
Stability: High
Dream Comments: Sexual. Vibrations. Plus an excellent crisp lucid with a sexy theme. Possibly influenced from a film the previous night. Highly memorable. Major dream control. Very high recall. Felt sad also in one dream.
Note to self: Will visit this place again and get a drink this time!

ABBA. Vibrations. The 'Naked' Bar - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by RobStar

This should bring me bang up to date so far.

Awesome, thanks for that! It definitely makes things easier to find.

Thanks & no Probs. Hope it helps.
De Nada as they say in Spanglish.

From this morning I will post the template daily.

Now where is that bed. (¿Donde está mí cama, por favor?)

You know, if we were *really* doing this hardcore in the name of science, Alyzarin would give half of the participants menthol tablets, and half of the participants menthol "flavored" tablets (i.e., sugar pills/placebos), but not actually tell the participants what kind they have.

I wonder how easy it's for me to take a sugar pill with the power of suggestion, "This pill will affect your dreams!" and have it actually affect my dreams.

The power of suggestion is strong...

Originally Posted by Mindraker

You know, if we were *really* doing this hardcore in the name of science, Alyzarin would give half of the participants menthol tablets, and half of the participants menthol "flavored" tablets (i.e., sugar pills/placebos), but not actually tell the participants what kind they have.

I wonder how easy it's for me to take a sugar pill with the power of suggestion, "This pill will affect your dreams!" and have it actually affect my dreams.

The power of suggestion is strong...

You know, this is only the beginning of the experiment. I wasn't going to take anything as fact until a good number of people who've used menthol have also gone for a period of time without using it, then used it again, then stopped, etc.... Basically enough that the changes we're getting are definitely induced by menthol. However, I have no doubts that it does effect dreams in one way or another.

If you want to distribute placebos, though, be my guest. It'll sure move this along faster.

Originally Posted by Mindraker

You know, if we were *really* doing this hardcore in the name of science, Alyzarin would give half of the participants menthol tablets, and half of the participants menthol "flavored" tablets (i.e., sugar pills/placebos), but not actually tell the participants what kind they have.

I wonder how easy it's for me to take a sugar pill with the power of suggestion, "This pill will affect your dreams!" and have it actually affect my dreams.

The power of suggestion is strong...

I always go in skeptical... and well, I've not had any lucid success. Yet, unexpectedly...4 nights worth of multiple dreams were completely sexual.

Anyway... a supplement that claims to increase lucidity is perfect if it does just that (whether placebo or real), right? ^_^

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

I always go in skeptical... and well, I've not had any lucid success. Yet, unexpectedly...4 nights worth of multiple dreams were completely sexual.

Anyway... a supplement that claims to increase lucidity is perfect if it does just that (whether placebo or real), right? ^_^

To be honest, if I had to pick one or the other, I would totally go with a dream sex pill over a lucid dream pill. There are already a lot of the latter out there. X)

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

To be honest, if I had to pick one or the other, I would totally go with a dream sex pill over a lucid dream pill. There are already a lot of the latter out there. X)

Butttt lucid dreams = control = better sex dreams.

I'd only want this to increase lucidity because of its availability and price. And I forgot to buy the tea. >_>

I got 3 packs of Halls.

Dark Cherry
Cherry
And Lemon


I'm going to take the Cherry and see if my "cherry" is going to get crushed.

Going to take 3 of them tonight.

Are you putting this into a spreadsheet or anything, Aly? I think if we kept to some format, say.. like RobStar's, it'd be pretty easy to collate.

I'm interested in how many have sexual dreams actually.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Butttt lucid dreams = control = better sex dreams.

I'd only want this to increase lucidity because of its availability and price. And I forgot to buy the tea. >_>

But non-lucid sex dreams make you think they're actually happening. Hehe, I know, that's a terrible reason, but what you can expect from someone who used to use deliriants? You know, I didn't actually originally claim that menthol would increase lucidity, though of course I've gotten lucid almost every time I used it. I said it was a dream enhancer, nothing more. However, enhanced dreams can certainly lead to more lucidity, and that seems to be the case here.

And don't worry, I forgot to get mine for a few days, too.

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

I got 3 packs of Halls.

Dark Cherry
Cherry
And Lemon


I'm going to take the Cherry and see if my "cherry" is going to get crushed.

Going to take 3 of them tonight.

Sweeeet, I hope you get some good results.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Are you putting this into a spreadsheet or anything, Aly? I think if we kept to some format, say.. like RobStar's, it'd be pretty easy to collate.

I'm interested in how many have sexual dreams actually.

Well, I did originally post the template he used. But no, I haven't done anything like that. That could be corrected easily, though.

A random thought: do a reality check every time you have sex, then take lots of menthol? X)