Thread: Why God Exists.

Originally Posted by stonedape

Actually this could be an atheistic viewpoint. It could a weak atheist viewpoint, also sometimes called an implicit atheist viewpoint. This viewpoint lacks a belief in any Gods. If you lack a belief in God, you might be inclined to say that we don't how the universe started. But you could also have your own theory of how the universe started that didn't involve a God. In reality the postition could be assosciated with anyone, even a theist. You could believe in a God who didn't create the universe.

An agnostic viewpoint of this situation would be that we can't know how the universe began, whether or not God created the universe.

Good point about agnosticism, although I don't think making a grey area about atheism really makes any difference. I suppose both atheism and agnosticism overlap in such a way.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

What makes faith a sturdy bridge?

If faith is a bridge, the question of sturdiness is the question of strength of faith. In addition to this, there is also numerous people that have known the Divine reality as confirmation, with great consistency throughout history. Call them saints, leaders, teachers, mystics, etc. All the means for perfect faith are already given.

Originally Posted by Supernova

I'm not saying it doesn't have holes, but it's still an attempt at an explanation. You can't be right if you don't take a stab at the question. And, after all, it all comes down to that question. We can ask "If X came from Y, then where did Y come from..." and so on for all eternity, but suggesting an origin for our universe is more than atheism can do.

Good point. Having rejected not only God, but (often indirectly) any truth beyond the scientific paradigm, the atheist is incapable of making revolutionary discoveries. The belief structure and attitude is what stops any further progression into that ground.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Pascal's Wager. Your argument is invalid.

Please elaborate?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

You can't be wrong either. If someone's answer is that they don't know the answer to something, they're not even trying to answer the question. They're stating their lack of knowledge of an answer.

I'm sure atheists don't "state their lack of knowledge" when they are arguing against God, so this wouldn't apply to them, would it?