Originally Posted by
Xei
It isn't a hole in the viewpoint because atheists acknowledge that it's not within their viewpoint. They say, 'we don't know what the origin was', and leave it at that. What more can you do? The theistic position makes an assertion which does not actually logically explain it anyway, so it's worse, in the sense that it's baseless and plausibly incorrect. It's like you have a box that cannot possibly be opened. The atheist says, 'I don't know what's in it'. The theist says, 'there's a banana/cash prize/ghost' in it. You're saying the latter is more intellectually satisfying because it 'doesn't have holes'?
I don't get what you mean by this. Surely existing indefinitely is consistent with matter not being destroyed? Or do you mean that an indefinite existence is nonsensical for other reasons? Well, science doesn't propose an indefinite existence anyway. All science can do is observe lots of instances and make some general law that encompasses all of them. Matter (or rather, energy; matter can indeed 'disappear') is only observed to be conserved now (and even that is contentious). Before the universe came into being, we have no clue if energy is conserved as a general principle. How could we? We have no clue about any general principles 'above our level of reality'. Anything is possible, including universes spontaneously coming into existence.
In what way is God an explanation? Please define your terms.
On the one hand we have 'natural phenomenon X, which itself is causeless, caused the universe', and on the other we have 'God, who is causeless, caused the universe'. Why do you find the latter to be 'better'? What is it about being a causeless creator that necessitates the qualities of God as you define him?