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      Thanks. Bible passages about God being arrogant and absurd really bring out my sarcasm.
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      so if you don't mind me asking what's your standing on the subject?

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      It looks like the second verse is saying not to make any image (painting, photograph, sculpture, map, etc.) of God, what is underground, or what is under the ocean's surface. It talks about a graven image and then says "or" before talking about the nature scenes. Thou shalt not
      make unto thee any graven image, OR any likeness [of any
      thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth
      beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth" It does not say the likenesses of underground or under the ocean surface have to resemble God to be forbidden. It is one more off the wall rule in the Bible, like how you can't cut your hair on the sides and can't work on Sunday. Most Christians ignore pretty much all of the rules in the Bible. When questioned on it, they say they are old laws that don't apply to now, but then they will turn around and say that the Bible is the word of God and homosexuals are evil and evolution is a lie. It's all a bunch of chaotic madness.

      The first verse you quoted spells out support for this stance I talk about sometimes...

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      A big part of me has held on to Zen and other Eastern philosophical beliefs for a long time, so I am not that far from agreeing with your scientific view of existence as a god. I am just not so sure about calling it a god. It is something phenomenal, whatever it is. Notice my screen name.
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      yeah, i only refer to it as "God" because it's the only way to communicate it to others easily and quickly....

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      Not all Christians take the Old Testament superseriously. That would be like a Christian making a thread about how all atheists support abortion (and that would really piss me off).
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      Are you saying,
      that all of this was created,
      BY A MONKEY??????

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      if they don't take both books seriously then they're blasphemers already and hipocrites because Jesus in the new book says he brings the same laws that were handed down to moses by his father, and that we have to keep all the commandments his father gave.... dono the exact pages but i've read almost the whole thing.... back when i used to be a young dumb christian child, then i was like wait a second and read the entire thing except a book or two, but those weren't really relating to god they were side stories in it. I remember the bible like you would remember a book you read, you don't remember the exact words but you get the idea of what happened and when you wanna tell somebody about a part in it you know what chapter to look in... but like i said... how can they worship the son but not the father and say they still say the bible is the word of the God they follow... i'll tell you how, because it's a religion that is molded to fit the worshipers current feelings toward it.... Religions in general are all false, they're man made, and mad edited... if any God were a "God" they would be "perfect" beings and why wouldn't a perfect being be able to forgive everything if they're perfect.....

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      I mean, the bible basically says only god has the right to commit sins but we cannot because sins are filth and evil and all these bad things.... so if you don'y like the Christian god he has the right to murder your soul..... hmm somebody didn't have alot of friends back in god-school

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      Quote Originally Posted by MementoMori View Post
      if they don't take both books seriously then they're blasphemers already and hipocrites because Jesus in the new book says he brings the same laws that were handed down to moses by his father, and that we have to keep all the commandments his father gave.... dono the exact pages but i've read almost the whole thing.... back when i used to be a young dumb christian child, then i was like wait a second and read the entire thing except a book or two, but those weren't really relating to god they were side stories in it. I remember the bible like you would remember a book you read, you don't remember the exact words but you get the idea of what happened and when you wanna tell somebody about a part in it you know what chapter to look in... but like i said... how can they worship the son but not the father and say they still say the bible is the word of the God they follow... i'll tell you how, because it's a religion that is molded to fit the worshipers current feelings toward it.... Religions in general are all false, they're man made, and mad edited... if any God were a "God" they would be "perfect" beings and why wouldn't a perfect being be able to forgive everything if they're perfect.....
      Jesus obviously could not have meant that the old laws will never change, because if he did he wouldn't have gone about changing half of them! He said that the whole law swings on the two great commandments. Just because he was born in a Jewish society doesn't mean all Christians should keep Jewish moral standards. Jesus went to great lengths describing to people about how the Jews are NOT God's chosen people. The verse in the bible, "Not one tittle of the law will pass away" or whatever it was; must have been a misinterpretation. We have for example the Gnostic Gospels, some of which, like the Gospel of Thomas, stating that Jesus does not even care about what much of the Old Testament had to say.

      Christians are not being hypocrites by picking and choosing rationally out of the bible. This stigma has been added by OTHER CHRISTIANS to excercise control. A Christian cannot be told he is a hypocrit just because he does not think the bible is God's word, because he just might not believe it! It's that simple. Maybe we should call these people Jesusists instead of Christians? I dunno.
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      Are you saying,
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      Quote Originally Posted by Idolfan View Post
      Not all Christians take the Old Testament superseriously. That would be like a Christian making a thread about how all atheists support abortion (and that would really piss me off).
      Atheists don't have a single, unifying Bible that says to commit abortion.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Atheists don't have a single, unifying Bible that says to commit abortion.
      Sure they do!

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