Thread: am i intolerant for having anti-christian tendencies?

I have the same problem. I tend to look down on Christians.

Although, I don't know they're Christian until they've been blabbing about it for five minutes or say something like, "Well, you just have to trust in God."

I also look down on Christians and all religious people for that matter. My disrespect goes up or down depending on how involved they are in their religion.

well i definitely don't think religious people and religion are inherently bad.

Originally Posted by cygnus

well i definitely don't think religious people and religion are inherently bad.

My humble opinion: "Christians" per-say aren't what your being "intolerant" towards. It stems from the fact that it's the faith of the majority and as such has a disproportionate amount of idiots and "crazies" (at least in the west). The type of people who follow everything on "blind faith" are likely to be entrenched in this majority (i.e. never had to/wanted to question their beliefs.) If any other religion (or philosophy) was the clear majority the problem would be the same, just with different place settings.

In the immortal words of South Park:

"Look, maybe us Mormons do believe in crazy stories that make absolutely no sense, and maybe Joseph Smith did make it all up, but I have a great life. and a great family, and I have the Book of Mormon to thank for that. The truth is, I don't care if Joseph Smith made it all up, because what the church teaches now is loving your family, being nice and helping people. And even though people in this town might think that's stupid, I still choose to believe in it. All I ever did was try to be your friend, Stan, but you're so high and mighty you couldn't look past my religion and just be my friend back. You've got a lot of growing up to do, buddy. Suck my balls."

I look down on Christians also.
If they keep it private I can look past it.
If they are open-minded but just happen to admire Jesus Christ for his myth that is cool. Hey, I even admire Jesus.
But people who try to shape the world according to what a book says and who think that they are saved and everyone who doesn't believe what they do is damned, I have no respect for that.
I have no respect for people who try to make one feel guilty.
I also have anger towards what Christianity has done to the world and other people like you do. I have anger towards anyone who can take a message for loving everyone unconditionally and turning into an excuse for genocide, torture, etc.

Are we intolerant? Yes, we are, but maybe not enough.
But, really, we should try to look past it in individuals and just see them as another human like ourselves, no matter how misguided. But for Christianity as a whole, we should be intolerant to it, as well as any organized religion. Organized religion is the root of evil in my opinion. Unorganized Pagan Spirituality and mysticism is cool by me.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I look down on Christians also.
If they keep it private I can look past it.
If they are open-minded but just happen to admire Jesus Christ for his myth that is cool. Hey, I even admire Jesus.
But people who try to shape the world according to what a book says and who think that they are saved and everyone who doesn't believe what they do is damned, I have no respect for that.
I have no respect for people who try to make one feel guilty.
I also have anger towards what Christianity has done to the world and other people like you do. I have anger towards anyone who can take a message for loving everyone unconditionally and turning into an excuse for genocide, torture, etc.

Something to keep in mind with the whole "Christians ruining the world" thing is that people were ruining the world before Christianity, and will continue to if it disappeared tomorrow. People are dicks, true story.

Originally Posted by TheUnknownKadath

Something to keep in mind with the whole "Christians ruining the world" thing is that people were ruining the world before Christianity, and will continue to if it disappeared tomorrow. People are dicks, true story.

True, true...

i just got caught on a pet peeve of mine.
Jesus was truly not a dick. he was a cool amazing dude.
I try to look for the good in all people. But on forums I often get caught up in rants of pet peeves like Organized Religion and shitty doctrines.

well, look. dannon's response below was basically the type of advice i was hoping for.

i said i was looking for advice from like-minded people. why would i want to hear from christians that i am insulting them and my intolerance knows no limits?

really, why would you post here about that unless you only read the title of the thread and not its contents? do so many people skip the body of the original post just so they can drop by and confuse things, distorting the intent of the OP?

if you would actually read my posts you would see that i posted the original topic to figure out how i can reconcile my mostly verified criticism of certain aspects of christianity with my desire to not get carried away with wantonly demonizing people.

maybe some day we'll have a more constructive way to discuss this kind of thing.

this has steered off course since the response below. unless you have something constructive to post, just ignore this thread.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I look down on Christians also.
If they keep it private I can look past it.
If they are open-minded but just happen to admire Jesus Christ for his myth that is cool. Hey, I even admire Jesus.
But people who try to shape the world according to what a book says and who think that they are saved and everyone who doesn't believe what they do is damned, I have no respect for that.
I have no respect for people who try to make one feel guilty.
I also have anger towards what Christianity has done to the world and other people like you do. I have anger towards anyone who can take a message for loving everyone unconditionally and turning into an excuse for genocide, torture, etc.

Are we intolerant? Yes, we are, but maybe not enough.
But, really, we should try to look past it in individuals and just see them as another human like ourselves, no matter how misguided. But for Christianity as a whole, we should be intolerant to it, as well as any organized religion. Organized religion is the root of evil in my opinion. Unorganized Pagan Spirituality and mysticism is cool by me.

When I first saw this thread, it kind of fustrated me. Now that i have come back to it, I can say, as a Christian, there are other Christians that I am intolerant of. Those that are out just for money, Those that use their position (as a priest etc) to pray on kids and others, those that do nothing but judge others etc...So yes, I guess I am intolerant of some that call themselves Chrisitans as well. Christians shouldn't be generalized.

just thought i'd point out

Originally Posted by cygnus

well, look. dannon's response below was basically the type of advice i was hoping for.

i said i was looking for advice from like-minded people. why would i want to hear from christians that i am insulting them and my intolerance knows no limits?

really, why would you post here about that unless you only read the title of the thread and not its contents? do so many people skip the body of the original post just so they can drop by and confuse things, distorting the intent of the OP?

if you would actually read my posts you would see that i posted the original topic to figure out how i can reconcile my mostly verified criticism of certain aspects of christianity with my desire to not get carried away with wantonly demonizing people.

maybe some day we'll have a more constructive way to discuss this kind of thing.

this has steered off course since the response below. unless you have something constructive to post, just ignore this thread.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I look down on Christians also.
If they keep it private I can look past it.
If they are open-minded but just happen to admire Jesus Christ for his myth that is cool. Hey, I even admire Jesus.
But people who try to shape the world according to what a book says and who think that they are saved and everyone who doesn't believe what they do is damned, I have no respect for that.
I have no respect for people who try to make one feel guilty.
I also have anger towards what Christianity has done to the world and other people like you do. I have anger towards anyone who can take a message for loving everyone unconditionally and turning into an excuse for genocide, torture, etc.

Are we intolerant? Yes, we are, but maybe not enough.
But, really, we should try to look past it in individuals and just see them as another human like ourselves, no matter how misguided. But for Christianity as a whole, we should be intolerant to it, as well as any organized religion. Organized religion is the root of evil in my opinion. Unorganized Pagan Spirituality and mysticism is cool by me.

THIS!

there are enough threads about how lame christianity is.