Thread: Debate yourself!

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Noogah, don't you know that all the water in our solar system is found on Earth?

That isn't true. Earth is the only planet we know of that has water in LIQUID form. The galaxy/solar system is full of ice, and hence the solar system is chalk full of water.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Also, you can't prove abiogenesis. All the parts in a cell could not have come together by chance. That's like a tornado disassembling and re-assembling a Boeing 747.

A boeing 747 is an airplane, not an animal/human, and is therefore not reproductable, and the analogy isn't even comaprable.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

Without transitional forms, evolution is false.

Um...could you elaborate on this please?

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

You need that smooth transition or else evolution holds no ground.

Why smooth? Why could it not be rough? The transition is like polishing rocks. The rocks start out as rough, and are tumbled around, tossed, and turned. Over time, they eventually wear away into a smooth gem. The transition itself could be a rough one, but will eventually turn out a smooth creature.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

The universe had to have a beginning because of the law of conservation of matter.

Yes, everything had a beginning. Big bang? We don't claim to know the beginning of everything. But we can know how things formed.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

God is timeless and exists outside the laws of his own universe. Therefore, God created the universe.

[that was my argument! ] But you can't prove that. You can't prove taht there is anything beyond what youc an see, hear, smell, touch, and feel. To say taht "The universe exists, and must therefore have had external influence" is silly! Flawed logic. We know nature, and we have a logical explanation of how nature made everything.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Um...could you elaborate on this please?

Transitional forms show that an animal evolves, so it is important.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Why smooth? Why could it not be rough? The transition is like polishing rocks. The rocks start out as rough, and are tumbled around, tossed, and turned. Over time, they eventually wear away into a smooth gem. The transition itself could be a rough one, but will eventually turn out a smooth creature.

It does need a smooth transition. You won't see a fish transform into an amphibian, or some land mammal into a whale instantly. That's why you have "smooth" transitions where species show transitional features.


Why don't you counter my argument...

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Because god made them like that.

Originally Posted by Noogah

A boeing 747 is an airplane, not an animal/human, and is therefore not reproductable, and the analogy isn't even comaprable.

You're missing the point. The point is that life is a complex system that can't arise naturally without some other influence. Don't make cop-out statements. Tell us how life can arise naturally. Until then, the analogy remains valid.

Originally Posted by Noogah

"The universe exists, and must therefore have had external influence" is silly! Flawed logic. We know nature, and we have a logical explanation of how nature made everything.

Oh, you do, do you? I'd like to hear that explanation.