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    1. 10-13-2009 05:52 AM #1
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      I want to know why a loving god who does occasionally heal people would not regrow a limb. You said earlier that this belief could be understood rationally and without delusion. Can you provide an explanation as to why such a god would behave this way?
      I didn't say that. I said the question doesn't apply to all Christians, because not all Christians believe is spontaneous healing from prayer. Then I gave examples of how a Christian can not believe in prayer and still be a Christian, and how you can believe in prayer, while not believing in spontaneous healing from prayer. There is many other choices as well. My entire point, was you can't lump all Christians into one big pile then call them all delusional. Especially when the 'proof' doesn't even apply to all Christians.
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    2. 10-17-2009 09:35 AM #2
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      I didn't say that. I said the question doesn't apply to all Christians, because not all Christians believe is spontaneous healing from prayer. Then I gave examples of how a Christian can not believe in prayer and still be a Christian, and how you can believe in prayer, while not believing in spontaneous healing from prayer. There is many other choices as well. My entire point, was you can't lump all Christians into one big pile then call them all delusional. Especially when the 'proof' doesn't even apply to all Christians.
      Would you agree that a person who believes in a loving god that occasionally answers prayers and heals people is deluded when considering that amputees do not get their limbs back when prayed for? If you don't agree, can you explain without making excuses how that god could possibly exist and behave like that when considering what we observe?
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    3. 10-17-2009 09:39 AM #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      Would you agree that a person who believes in a loving god that occasionally answers prayers and heals people is deluded when considering that amputees do not get their limbs back when prayed for? If you don't agree, can you explain without making excuses how that god could possibly exist and behave like that when considering what we observe?
      Logical reason would be that god is like humans. Didn't he make humans as his image? So rationally he is as chaotical and impulsive as we are. Too bad, his faithful cannot stand the idea he isn't some kind of supreme and higher being we cannot understand.

      He is probably stoned most of the time and uses roulette to decide what prayers he will bring to truth.

      Logical, isn't it?
      Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Unelias View Post
      Logical, isn't it?
      Sure, if you want to talk about a different god than the one I mentioned. Please read a little closer next time.

      Defining traits of the god I'm talking about:

      - Is 'loving' i.e. actually cares about the well-being of humans.

      - Listens to and answers to prayers and:

      - Occasionally heals human's diseases and helps them in all sorts of other ways.

      It follows that a god who cares about the well being of humans wouldn't leave their fate up to chance.

      Besides, he's gonna know the outcome anyway, isn't he?
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      Sorry, I'll fix it.

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      I figured you were joking, but sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between a joke and poor reading comprehension/idiocy.

      ~ I forgive you. ~
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      Yes, after all sacrasm is a form of humour which requires intelligence to understand.


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