Thread: Faith

Originally Posted by NeoSioType

I have stuck to being christian because I like to take comfort in knowing righteousness shall pervail in the end.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

You mean your version of righteousness. I've seen a disturbing pattern among people of faith, and that is that none of them believe they themselves are going to the hell to which they condemn so many others. It's almost as if the very concept of hell was invented by mankind to reconcile the fact that people do bad things to us and often don't get punished.

of couse, abuse in this line of thinking has caused great suffering.

Originally Posted by Sandform

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To be honest I didn't watch past the first minute. So this... whatever it is has fallen on deaf ears mr. Sandform.

I am atheist because I was raised a hardcore chrisitian, and I saw the exclusionary view that they proposed. I also researched evil things like evolution and abiogenesis, and saw that it had much more evidence to back it up then religion. Much more, but that's it in a nutshell.

Deism allows abiogenesis and evolution. Just saying.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Deism allows abiogenesis and evolution. Just saying.

So does theism.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

What are you still doing here?

really has just been posting...

Originally Posted by Xei

Clearly you don't have any true belief in this stuff, or you'd have killed yourself.

Obviously I was referring to ego-death, so I can't "kill myself". You know about the ego, yes?

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Religion is shit someone made up. That's the whole point... or did you think the Bible magically appaered out of thin air? The Koran manifested out of nothing? The Torah grew from a tree? LOL! No.

rofl

Christianity - Jesus taught, apostles documented, but from there the scriptures have been distorted through the church, translation, etc.

Obviously I was referring to ego-death, so I can't "kill myself". You know about the ego, yes?

Actually the word death is normally taken to obviously mean 'death'. You know how to speak, yes?

If there is no ego then why not kill yourself?

Originally Posted by Xei

Actually the word death is normally taken to obviously mean 'death'. You know how to speak, yes?

Originally Posted by really

When you have finally died* and comprehended Reality, you are immersed in the Love of God, therein lies a peace beyond all time and description.

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* = ego-death, the only real death.

That was supposed to help you out.

Originally Posted by Xei

If there is no ego then why not kill yourself?

What do you mean there is no ego? What's the point of killing yourself?

The whole point of ego death is when you realise there is no ego and your consciousness is all just a part of a universal whole.

Originally Posted by Xei

The whole point of ego death is when you realise there is no ego and your consciousness is all just a part of a universal whole.

Then you go ahead and let the "universal whole" do whatever they want to you, I will continue to be separate and look out for myself.

It seems to be personified through "his" and "shivered", relating to the individual soul.

Originally Posted by Xei

The whole point of ego death is when you realise there is no ego and your consciousness is all just a part of a universal whole.

It's not that there is no ego, but that we realize we are not the ego. The "I" comes from a greater identity, which knows exactly what it is. While we identify with the ego, we do not understand life, we do not know "who" we are.