So, can we all (except for chubawhatever) agree that the god we define is the one in the 3 Abrahamic religions? I mean, I don't know about you guys but I have nothing against calling the universe or nature god, that's fine. But the god that we are atheistic towards is the one portrayed in the bible/koran/torah/ etc.
06-01-2008, 08:07 AM
ChaybaChayba
Did you ever read the Bible, Koran or Torah? I don't think you did. I think you base your knowledge of the God talked about in the Bible or the Koran solely on the intrepretation of other people.
The Bible says God is love. But you go and claim God is an old man with a beard. Please.. get a clue and learn to think for yourself and don't just mindlessly copy how other people intrepret the Bible.
06-01-2008, 09:49 AM
Serkat
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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
The Bible says God is love. But you go and claim God is an old man with a beard. Please.. get a clue and learn to think for yourself and don't just mindlessly copy how other people intrepret the Bible.
The bible makes it pretty clear that god is a conscious humanoid male. Quit deluding yourself.
06-01-2008, 09:55 AM
Dreamhope11
Chaypa you are so cocky, and i bet you have never read the bible, i bet the teachers at school told you god is love, cause they did at my school.
06-01-2008, 10:00 AM
Minervas Phoenix
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People say God created the universe but how can god create its self.
You really need to take a good look at my philosophy.
06-01-2008, 01:26 PM
ChaybaChayba
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Originally Posted by Korittke
The bible makes it pretty clear that god is a conscious humanoid male. Quit deluding yourself.
You intrepret the Bible as if God is a humanoid male. You're only deluding yourself, and keeping yourself away from the truth. The Bible clearly says it is forbidden to make an image of God. But you just did that.
Its like saying "I believe God is a fairy!"
Therefor, I decide God doesn't exist.
Because.. fairies don't exist!!
Maybe you just interpreted the Bible wrong? If you truly believe every word of the Bible has to be taking litterally you're donig the exact same thing as fundamentalist christians.
It's not forbidden to think for yourself. Don't mindlessly copy things from people.
Its amazing how you think religious people are full of BS, but at the same time you will use their words in each argument about God.
06-01-2008, 03:06 PM
Serkat
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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
You intrepret the Bible as if God is a humanoid male. You're only deluding yourself, and keeping yourself away from the truth. The Bible clearly says it is forbidden to make an image of God. But you just did that.
Its like saying "I believe God is a fairy!"
Therefor, I decide God doesn't exist.
Because.. fairies don't exist!!
Maybe you just interpreted the Bible wrong? If you truly believe every word of the Bible has to be taking litterally you're donig the exact same thing as fundamentalist christians.
So...? I love fundamental Christians. At least they try not to be hypocrites, at least they stand up for their delusion unlike all those weak-assed pussy bastards who try to tell me a Christians who endorses homosexuality isn't going to fucking hell.
06-01-2008, 03:08 PM
ChaybaChayba
"So?" Brilliant argumentation Einstein. Telling me you hate gay people isn't gonig to make my argument go away. Nice try tho.
06-01-2008, 03:08 PM
Sornaensis
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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
You intrepret the Bible as if God is a humanoid male. You're only deluding yourself, and keeping yourself away from the truth. The Bible clearly says it is forbidden to make an image of God. But you just did that.
Its like saying "I believe God is a fairy!"
Therefor, I decide God doesn't exist.
Because.. fairies don't exist!!
Maybe you just interpreted the Bible wrong? If you truly believe every word of the Bible has to be taking litterally you're donig the exact same thing as fundamentalist christians.
It's not forbidden to think for yourself. Don't mindlessly copy things from people.
Its amazing how you think religious people are full of BS, but at the same time you will use their words in each argument about God.
Then you fail epicly to the umpteenmth power because you tried to "disprove" atheism by saying God might as well be a Wrench.
06-01-2008, 03:09 PM
ChaybaChayba
Sure, try to quote me. You said God might as well be a wrench. Therefore you are actually talking about your own failure. Nice one.
I said, if you have a retarded definition of God, you will end up with retarded conclusions about God. That is what Atheism is about apparently. You keep claiming God is a fairy or a wrench, and then you're surprised you end up with retarded conclusions. LOL
It is your fullest right to believe in a fairy God or a wrench God but this says alot about your intellect imo.
06-01-2008, 03:14 PM
Sornaensis
No, no.
That was an example of UM's.
You spend three or four pages on this forum arguing that Atheism is stupid because God can be anything.
Therefore you were going against what you actually believed. So then what was the point except to create uselessness?
Now you are arguing against simple fact.
First off, the Judeo-Christian god is referred to as a Male (Which makes no sense because he's supposed to be this mega uber gai wif all kinds of awesome powers-- But he's the only one. So why would he need a gender? Well simply because males wrote the bible of course.) and is quite an ass throughout the OT.
In the NT he doesn't really change-- You just meet a new character who's supposed to be the offspring (You figure that one out) of this Omnipotent, Sentient, and Male creature. So the son acts all great, but occasionally has his mood swings (Fig tree) and basically we don't hear a lot from this God person, making him look infinitely better than in the OT.
06-01-2008, 03:22 PM
ChaybaChayba
I said atheism is completely pointless.
I challenge you to try and show me the point of atheism.
How does "believing God doesn't exist" make you any wiser? It's like one sentence. I already memorized that sentence, therefore I already memorized the whole of atheism, and atheism can't learn me anything new anymore.
I believe in all religions, unlike you, I have an open mind and I extract wisdom out of any information, and I ignore bullshit.
You however, only focus on the bullshit and ignore the wisdom. Much like an ostrich.
The entire premise of atheism is rejecting Theology.
Periodendofstory.
There is no point but what you make its point.
I mean honestly your argument could easily be turned on theism:
"How does explaining everything by saing "Majick man dun it!" make you any smarter, or hold any point?"
06-01-2008, 03:25 PM
Goldney
You're right, Atheism doesn't have a "point", any more than religions do.
It's just a particular person's beliefs (or lack of them).
I don't see why you think this is a bad thing. Please explain.
ChaybaChaybe and Seismosaur: Stop slagging off each other's beliefs.
06-01-2008, 03:31 PM
ChaybaChayba
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Originally Posted by Seismosaur
The entire premise of atheism is rejecting Theology.
Periodendofstory.
There is no point but what you make its point.
I mean honestly your argument could easily be turned on theism:
"How does explaining everything by saing "Majick man dun it!" make you any smarter, or hold any point?"
Yeah, thats the only sentence in the Bible. Genius. You're doing it again. Ignoring the facts, ignoring the existance of the Bible.
You should change your name to King of Ostriches.
06-01-2008, 03:32 PM
Goldney
Do you have a personal vendetta against atheists or something?
06-01-2008, 03:33 PM
Needcatscan
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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
I said atheism is completely pointless.
I challenge you to try and show me the point of atheism.
How does "believing God doesn't exist" make you any wiser? It's like one sentence. I already memorized that sentence, therefore I already memorized the whole of atheism, and atheism can't learn me anything new anymore.
You are seriously maddening. Simply because your arguments make no logical sense and you argue them like you think you're a PHD in philosophy.
I was an extremely strong, fundamentalist Christian until I was 17. I've read a good amount of the old testaments (I'll admit, cubits and "begats" were rather boring) and all of the New Testament. I have dozens of verses memorized from my brainwashing days, so don't say I haven't read the bible kid.
You are seriously ruining every thread you post in; stop hijacking people's threads and spouting gibberish. At least spiritofthewolf argued his points with coherent arguments and an attempt at evidence.
06-01-2008, 03:33 PM
Sornaensis
Chayba:
Exactly my fucking point you ignorant lump of waste!
You can't sum up someone's beliefs in a single sentence: So stop!
If you don't want people turning what you believe into a single sentence, then stop doing that to an entire group of people.
06-01-2008, 03:35 PM
ChaybaChayba
Yes you can sum up atheism in one sentence. That's why it's completely pointless.
06-01-2008, 03:35 PM
Sornaensis
No, you cannot.
06-01-2008, 03:35 PM
ChaybaChayba
I just did. King of ostriches. Keep on ignoring the facts.
06-01-2008, 03:37 PM
Goldney
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Originally Posted by Chayba
How does "believing God doesn't exist" make you any wiser? It's like one sentence. I already memorized that sentence, therefore I already memorized the whole of atheism, and atheism can't learn me anything new anymore.
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Originally Posted by Seis
"How does explaining everything by saing "Majick man dun it!" make you any smarter, or hold any point?"
Do you see the similarities between these two sentences? Having said your "one sentence summation of atheism" you can't in all good conscience get away with saying this:
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Yeah, thats the only sentence in the Bible. Genius. You're doing it again. Ignoring the facts
Without being contradictory.
06-01-2008, 03:37 PM
Sornaensis
Not all atheists are the same.
Again, one might say all Theism is is casting things people don't understand on a magic man to explain them, so it is useless to a society based on science.
Therefore why have theism?
06-01-2008, 03:37 PM
Goldney
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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
I just did. King of ostriches. Keep on ignoring the facts.