Thread: "Choosing to Believe" 2 + 2 = 5: The Interviews

No!

If someone asked you "Are you a theist?" saying "Well I can be anything I want." is not an answer.

Sorry try again.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

No!

If someone asked you "Are you a theist?" saying "Well I can be anything I want." is not an answer.

Sorry try again.

Yes it is an answer. It means "yes, and more".

If someone asks me if I'm a christian, I can't answer just "yes" because i'm also a muslim, buddhist, etc.. I believe in all religions.

Answering with just "yes" would be only a small part of the answer. It would allow you to ignore the rest of the truth, much like an ostrich.

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No, you wouldn't. Because the question wasn't if you were christian it was whether or not you were theist.

The answer is yes/no.

Pick one.

Apply that to UM's question.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

i'm also a muslim, buddhist, etc.. I believe in all religions.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

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No, you wouldn't. Because the question wasn't if you were christian it was whether or not you were theist.

The answer is yes/no.

Pick one.

Apply that to UM's question.

The question was "Can you choose to believe anything?"
My answer is "Yes."

I have answered yes over 5 times, and you keep ignoring it. I'm done.

Someone lock this thread already...

i'm also a muslim, buddhist, etc.. I believe in all religions.

lolumz fantastic. There's no such thing as a lie?

Want to join my 'Xei is a giant money monster and if you don't pay him quickly he'll eat the whole planet religion'?

Originally Posted by Xei

lolumz fantastic. There's no such thing as a lie?

Want to join my 'Xei is a giant money monster and if you don't pay him quickly he'll eat the whole planet religion'?

Everything has truth. Words hold truth even if they are dividing. The can do nothing but hold truth.

The truth is a lie.

Everything has truth. Words hold truth even if they are dividing. The can do nothing but hold truth.

Okies then, dollerz plz.

I suppose the statement 'the truth is always a complete lie' is also true?

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

If I would have answered "No" this topic woudn't even exist. You completely fail at logic. This topic is the proof I already answered the question long time ago.

No, you are just one of the several people who inspired this thread. The final kicker was a post from Really.

What you are dodging is going into 2 + 2 = 5 state of mind and doing an interview. Of course, you know that, troll.

But then the truth about it being a lie is false, so then it is true.

Which is false. And then it is sent into a never-ending recursion of True and falseness.

Words are only expression. Just motion.

Truth and lies are subjective.
Words are subjective.

Words are both truth and lies. Truth and lies are just different degrees of the same phenomenon ~ expression. They can be interpreted in many ways.

Which happens to be what this whole thread is about. Whether truth really is subjective - because if something is subjective, then by definition it can be chosen.
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I have a lot more I could say. It's 3:20am - fuck that.

Actually it's only 6.20pm according to subjectivity, so get your ass back over here.

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

2+2=4 in the math system is an equation based on a believe system.
2 objects put next to 2 objects making 4 objects is inherent knowledge.

I'm talking about beliefs, and other people are apparently talking about inherent knowledge. I didn't take into account people didn't know the difference between beliefs and inherent knowledge.

Ok, fair enough, but if you can truly believe something that contradicts your inherent knowledge...something's off in your head.

And the question isn't "can you choose to believe 2+2=5?" We already know your answer to that. The question is "do you believe 2+2=5?"

This is why 2+2=5. The value of each number relies solely on the existence of the other numbers. If the value of each number relies on the other numbers to exist. This means all number must share the commonality of being the same value. Because each number has the same power to eliminate all the other numbers by itself. So 4 is in fact equal value and power to the existence of 5. Because without 4 there would be no 5. Since all numbers hold this same power to take on any number. No number is any different in terms of value. Even though they rely on each other for their individuality. They are still essentially the same value and borrow their individual values from the other numbers. Their unique value is therefore an illusion created by the other numbers. 2+2=5 is just skipping past this illusion that the value of the numbers actually matter. When what really matters is the existence of the numbers themself and not their particular sequences created from each number to give each number it's value.

This was very easy for me because I am a hardcore philosopher.

Great, so now all you need to do is get rid of the value '1' and mathematics will come to a screetching halt.

I think that post was a joke... I hope.

If you got rid of the value 1. Numbers would not make sense because they would not exist.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

If you got rid of the value 1. Numbers would not make sense because they would not exist.

Hence mathematics stopping.

But you yourself disproved yourself.

2 + 2 = 1 + 2 + 1, yes, but it doesn't equal one or two or one, it equal one plus two plus one.

2+2=5 should now be blatantly easy to understand.

But you yourself disproved yourself.
2 + 2 = 1 + 2 + 1, yes, but it doesn't equal one or two or one, it equal one plus two plus one.

I explained the context of both answers.

Yes; it's impossible.

Pretty sure that MP's just a troll account now.

Yes; it's impossible.

No, I explained the answer. It's not impossible. Maybe you do not understand what I wrote?