This subject came up when certain theists claimed that belief is a choice. That seems to be a common belief among Christians. It of course relates to whether a person can actually choose to believe in God. A few people here claimed that they have chosen to believe that 2 + 2 = 5, and two of them said they did it while having a dialogue with me. They told me that after the supposed fact, so I never got to talk to them while they were in that claimed state of mind. So I challenge anybody to make a choice to in total honesty believe that 2 + 2 = 5 and answer questions for people in this thread. Interviewing people while in a state of chosen belief of an absurd mathematical statement should be very interesting and educational. Set the record straight and let us talk to you while you are in this state of 2 + 2 = 5 consciousness. Who can do it?