Thread: I Would Like To Apologize.. (please read)

Originally Posted by Korittke

So...?

What?

You find out if he agrees. If he doesn't agree, so what?

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

You find out if he agrees. If he doesn't agree, so what?

Don't do it?

Originally Posted by Korittke

Don't do it?

Your sentence says nothing about not doing it. If it did.

Dreamworld: Hey I'm going to stop you from killing millions of people. If its ok with you.
Korittke: No.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Your sentence says nothing about not doing it.

Originally I proposed to do things to one another that are of interest to the person that things are being done to.

Originally Posted by Korittke

Originally I proposed to do things to one another that are of interest to the person that things are being done to.

Dreamworld: Hey I'm going to stop you from killing millions of people. If its ok with you.
Korittke: No.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Dreamworld: Hey I'm going to stop you from killing millions of people. If its ok with you.
Korittke: No.

I hope you're kidding.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

Dreamworld: Hey I'm going to stop you from killing millions of people. If its ok with you.
Korittke: No.

Stop whatever you are doing and think. Just think, how absolutely stupid this is. Please try and honestly understand what he said and why your criticism fails. Don't just argue straight off. try.. please just think.

Originally Posted by Trapped

being baptist myself, i see no point in apologizing for others because they dont give a crap about how they act or treat others. instead i seek to just be a nice person because no matter how many times we apologize for others it wont change public opinion.

Apologizing for us not being Christians really says everything we've been thinking.

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

*sighs*

Still cant believe this thread is making such an impact.. Good or Bad..

you take a simple Apology and throw it into a meat grinder,and what do you get? a mixture of "Assumptions" on what the point and topic was really about...

one says this,one says that.. But what is it that I really met? You can only assume and "Guess" by reading my text, what my point was.. And assuming on what i met causes you to get angry... Just because I said one thing about Jesus everybody has to throw their arms up in the air and bicker....

We cant all get along?

The funny thing is.. There have been some people saying my post is arrogant and left an impression that ends up being "Christians are better then unbelievers"

That was just the Assumption some got..

But by reading people's harsh posts and ridicule.. Wouldn't you say that it seems like some "Think they are better then me (The Christian)."

What makes you better then me.....? What makes Me.. Better then You?

Trust me people, we all have our issues... it doesnt matter what religion you are.. If you worship a toaster, or if you Worship Jesus.. Nobody in this life is Perfect.. We all at some point put an invisible mask over our face, to hide our true selves from society..

We at some points, put on an act toward people--we act a certain way--not acting like our true selves.. Why? Who are we impressing? We are just fooling ourselves....

Everyone is equal in God's eyes.. but today in Society.. Everybody wants to be # 1.. the Best.. Better then the person standing next to them....

People blame God for all the stuff that is going on in today's society.. but what is really going on is a little something called "Free Will" A God given Choice to all mankind.. What is Free will you might ask?

Free Will is simply: Freedom to Say no to HIS Will

The only people we have to blame for all the issues in this world today...is ourselves..

You talk about gas prices...We have enough oil in this land of america alone, to survive just fine.. No need for the war..But mankind seems to think otherwise..

Starvation in 3rd world countries...We have enough Aid to help them (We as in our Government) but we choose to turn away..

Why....

Like I said...In today's society.. It's all about being # 1....

Downgrading the person because of their beliefs.. Laughing at them because they believe something to be true...

But nobody laughs at the fact that somebody may belief in Alien Spaceships?

No, no no.. but when it comes to somebody like Jesus Christ....That is a different story...


**This next part goes for all religions**

You ever sit back and think about why there is separation from Church and State?

You ever wonder why you couldn't worship/preach your religion in school..

think about it..

There is a STANDARD EDUCATION in America..

Meaning the schools must TEACH and STANDARD to everyone enrolled.. They teach you math, science,english...etc.. All 13 years until you graduate..

They teach you the way "They want you to be taught" the way "They want you to think"

They will even teach you that Evolution or the Big Bang Theory as FACT..

So they block all any and all religions.. to teach your mind to think a certain way.. so when it comes time to ask yourself "what are my beliefs"

You lean back on what you were taught in school..

We have all asked ourselves... Why do I need to know about this subject, when its not going to apply to my life.. Because that is the "Standard" way.. To condition the mind to think a certain way..

Wash out any and all beliefs about anything--no matter what religion--- you have a bare naked mind sitting there staring hard at a teacher...beginning at the age of 5 or less....

Now I know I am going to get a load of crud from people about what i am saying, but that is just fine.. I know what to expect as a believer.... Persecution...

You can assume what you want from my posts.. Judge me the way you want..By this time you must all think IM CRAZY because of all the things I am saying.. But that is just the way the "Conditioned" mind is to "Assume"

A person thinks "Outside the box" "Outside the NORM" of what we have been taught through school and elsewhere.. "They" call that "Being Crazy"

The funny thing is.. My mind..is more open and I see all the cracks inside this world..I never did before--when I was not saved---

So go ahead.. Judge me.. Persecute me.. I shall not stop saying his name... Jesus Christ.. My Lord and Savior...

I know it must anger you.. I know it must put thoughts into your head, that I am stupid, arrogant, so on and so forth... But everything you call me and everything that you "assume" I am.. You have been once before...

So about being # 1.. how can you be better then the person standing next to you.. When your faults.. are just as much as his?

Oh yes of course.

Nevermind the president is as batshit crazy as you-- Schools are a conspiracy!!! OMG!!!

This is why i am moving to Europe.

To get away from nut jobs like you.

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

Scientific evidence?

Yes, Wolf. Scientific Evidence.

Originally Posted by Needcatscan

You are now in a new category: I don't know what to call it. . . I hand that job over to Seismosaur.

Wow. . .

I shall call it Christianitus ignoramus.

Originally Posted by Dream World

Well that one guy has more than a billion current followers.

And Hitler had millions, and so did Stalin.

The amount of sheep you can lead does not necessarily have anything to do with the validity of what you lead them on with or the morality backing.

I mean seriously.

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

The only people we have to blame for all the issues in this world today...is ourselves..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Sichuan_earthquake

Yes, our fault.

The truth is your god falls asleep on the job.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Sichuan_earthquake

Yes, our fault.

The truth is your god falls asleep on the job.

i think instead that he allows us to have freedom of choice

And then complains when we choose the "wrong" thing?

Who said he complains?

Well he "doesn't want us" to "choose to be bad".

He sends us to eternal damnation.

Why "let us choose" if really he wants us to choose what he wants? That is illogical. Then to punish us for not "chooing right"? That makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Well he "doesn't want us" to "choose to be bad".

He sends us to eternal damnation.

Why "let us choose" if really he wants us to choose what he wants? That is illogical. Then to punish us for not "chooing right"? That makes no sense.

how does punishing for doing wrong not make sense. If you kill someone u go to jail. does that make sense? He may want us to choose right but how is that illogical for him to want us to do right? Eternal damnation becomes a choice. Believe and u get everything if its right. Believe and lose nothing if its wrong.

Originally Posted by Trapped

Believe and u get everything if its right. Believe and lose nothing if its wrong.

Go Thor!

Originally Posted by Trapped

Eternal damnation becomes a choice. Believe and u get everything if its right. Believe and lose nothing if its wrong.

Why have you chosen eternal damnation then?

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Why have you chosen eternal damnation then?

i havent chosen eternal damnation.

Originally Posted by Omicron

Stop whatever you are doing and think. Just think, how absolutely stupid this is. Please try and honestly understand what he said and why your criticism fails. Don't just argue straight off. try.. please just think.

You seem to not understand how much fallicy there is with that sentence, and how misinterpeted it can get. It cannot take place of Jesus's comandment, because it does not promote peace, and makes no sense.

I thought you guys didn't like commandments which can be used for evil, or can be easily misunderstood. I can't believe you would stand before such a stupid proposal.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

You seem to not understand how much fallicy there is with that sentence, and how misinterpeted it can get. It cannot take place of Jesus's comandment, because it does not promote peace, and makes no sense.

I thought you guys didn't like commandments which can be used for evil, or can be easily misunderstood. I can't believe you would stand before such a stupid proposal.

Apparently, you didn't understand me at all or you have a very weird morality. Or you are just being very stubborn.

no matter how many times we speak our sides, we are not going to jump ship--from either side we stand on now to the other.. we are not getting anywhere with this topic, so can we all AGREE to end it?

Originally Posted by Korittke

Apparently, you didn't understand me at all or you have a very weird morality. Or you are just being very stubborn.

It makes no logical sense, and can be misinterpted. A commandment isn't supposed to relate to your morality, it is supposed to provoke morality. A religous leader can take your commandment and twist it for his own personal gain.

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

no matter how many times we speak our sides, we are not going to jump ship--from either side we stand on now to the other.. we are not getting anywhere with this topic, so can we all AGREE to end it?

Check out my post in the other page, I promise it will not offend you.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

It makes no logical sense, and can be misinterpted. A commandment isn't supposed to relate to your morality, it is supposed to provoke morality. A religous leader can take your commandment and twist it for his own personal gain.

Provide an example.

Originally Posted by Korittke

Provide an example.

A Pope does not like Muslim influence on europe. He tells his people, and fellow soldiers to exterminate the Muslim race. The Pope found out the Christians agree, and according to the commandment it is all right.