Thread: A proof for the non-existence of God

Yes, but the parrot can tell you he loves you and then say "It's dinner time".

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Yes, but the parrot can tell you he loves you and then say "It's dinner time".

Hehe and that is awesome too.

I want an african grey parrot.

Awesome!

As for the non-existence of god proof I will refer to the "babelfish"... Nah actualy you can't belive in anything at all, for instance this forum or this thread, only one thing and that is that you actualy exist in some form. "Cogito, ergo sum - I think therefore I am" //Descartes if anybody haven't heard of him(find that highly unlikely). So what were left with is several different ways to belive, now here's the thing, when you belive in science you are obligated to belive in the most reasonable way possible, if something else is more reasonable then you're obligated to change. Also there is a part of science that exists only for itself, you don't find this in any other beliefsystem I dare to say, a lot of things science "proves"(main flaw to call it proof realy but since almost everybody else does it it would be hard to comunicate, apart from that this is probably one of the main problems when discussing belief and such, on this point to me this is absolutely wrong and science should change acordingly) does nothing but state that something is and does something else, it doesn't imply a reason for it wich for instance christianity does. Also I don't belive in the true free will and such, however I have an intresting theory on the going which implies something similar and gives you the freedom of being both determinist and freewillbeliver at the same time, this is what I belive in.

Originally Posted by Korittke

Truth = science and reason, so yeah. You mostly see religious people fuck shit up.

That is not what I meant. Truth of Spirituality/God: the Essence of religions. People deem God to be false in most cases because they find flaws and limitations of religions (but without the realization that those limitations are blocking the essential Spiritual meaning). People may become mislead from the essential Spirituality of a religion, through religious dogma and the possible faulty translations of their scriptures. For example, most evident is the interpretation of an anthropomorphic god through Christian Scriptures (Christianity). Then, one may think "God is 'selfish'" or ask "Why would god 'make'/'do' that/this?" Such leads from one fault to another. Advancing with other analogies made here: It is like someone speaking of the sky as it is green, then someone concluding the sky does not exist. Here, the Spiritual essence is the sky; the religious error is the color.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Technically, all of Theism is not knowing. As that is it's foundation:

Don't know->Make up explanation->Not know whether explanation is true

Spiritual Information may be corrupted by the following:

Generally starts with Avatar of Enlightenment -> Teachings of Spirituality/God-View-> Religion (Depends on Context: Values/Politics/Time/Place/Language/Translation/Transmission of Information) -> Audience's interpretation (Depends on Context: Intelligence/Consciousness of person perceiving/processing that information).

Originally Posted by Sandform

The only proof for the non-existence of something is no proof of it existing.

This is only subjectively/relatively true, but not absolutely.

Originally Posted by gratismat

As for the non-existence of god proof I will refer to the "babelfish"... Nah actualy you can't belive in anything at all, for instance this forum or this thread, only one thing and that is that you actualy exist in some form. "Cogito, ergo sum - I think therefore I am"

God is Impersonal; He exists independent of personal opinion.

Originally Posted by really

God is Impersonal; He exists independent of personal opinion.

Evidence?

Originally Posted by Korittke

Evidence?

Look.

Now.

Be.

Everywhere.

Your existence is evidence, yet your ego clouds you from the Truth. Until you find evidence/become Enlightened, you have to do the cleaning yourself. I can not Enlighten you with an instant but I can teach; teachings directly from Spiritual Avatars would be more reliable because they have been the founders of Spirituality itself, basically.

Evidence and observation of Spiritual Avatars is a pretty good start.

Originally Posted by really

Look.

Now.

Be.

Everywhere.

Your existence is evidence, yet your ego clouds you from the Truth.

Unfalsifiable, much?

Originally Posted by really

Look.

Now.

Be.

Everywhere.

Your existence is evidence, yet your ego clouds you from the Truth. Until you find evidence/become Enlightened, you have to do the cleaning yourself. I can not Enlighten you with an instant but I can teach; teachings directly from Spiritual Avatars would be more reliable because they have been the founders of Spirituality itself, basically.

Evidence and observation of Spiritual Avatars is a pretty good start.

Then I submit God's existence is evidence of another God...in an infinite loop of God makers.