A proof for the non-existence of God

**Sandform** · 05-03-2008 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by SKA

In my Personal view of God, rather detatched from mainstreamreligions, is a Creating force that made Something(existance) out of Nothing(Inexistance).

Therefor I see humans that have imaginairy visions/Dreams (Not from this physical ) and turn them into Paintings and sculptures (Physical Existance) also as Gods. Or at least halfgods.

I really wish people like you would stop calling that God. Why not principle? When you say god it is a complete ripp and just makes my head want to explode because you don't mean god, you mean principle. Unless you think that the "creating force" had to have consciousness.

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-04-2008 12:09 AM

My personal definition of God is the all. God is everything.

Does everything exist? Yes. Everything exists, and we can all agree on that.

Therefore, we all agree, that my version of God, exists.

Sure, other versions of God, an old man with a beard sitting in heaven, are much harder to prove! But which version is the right version? Who decides which definition of God is the right definition? Are we allowed to pick our own definition? Or are we not allowed to pick or own definition? If we are not allowed to pick our own definition of God, who will define God? Your cat?

If we are allowed to pick our own definition of God, then I don't see how you can argue about his existence before knowing what that person actually means by "God".

**Sisyphus50** · 05-04-2008 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

My personal definition of God is the all. God is everything.

Does everything exist? Yes. Everything exists, and we can all agree on that.

Therefore, we all agree, that my version of God, exists.

Sure, other versions of God, an old man with a beard sitting in heaven, are much harder to prove! But which version is the right version? Who decides which definition of God is the right definition? Are we allowed to pick our own definition? Or are we not allowed to pick or own definition? If we are not allowed to pick our own definition of God, who will define God? Your cat?

If we are allowed to pick our own definition of God, then I don't see how you can argue about his existence before knowing what that person actually means by "God".

This is called pantheism, "God is in everything, everything is God".

**ChaybaChayba** · 05-04-2008 03:08 PM

Well I have never heard of pantheism, but yeah I guess thats what it is

**ClouD** · 05-04-2008 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Alextanium

This is called pantheism, "God is in everything, everything is God".

Don't forget, "everything is nothing"!

**♥Mark** · 05-05-2008 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by ClouD

Don't forget, "everything is nothing"!

I think that's atheism.

**ClouD** · 05-05-2008 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Mark75

I think that's atheism.

Atheism is the belief in the lack of a God.

There is no God. Therefore it is Atheism.

It is also every 'religion' and every truth. Which is nothing.

**Sandform** · 05-05-2008 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by ClouD

Atheism is the belief in the lack of a God.

There is no God. Therefore it is Atheism.

It is also every 'religion' and every truth. Which is nothing.

/sigh. Your such a tool. Yes there not being a god is one definition of being atheist.

However, that is only because it fits into the REAL description which is the LACK of a belief in God. It means we have no evidence for God, so we do not believe in its existence.

Atheism is NOT a belief. People who are atheists can have beliefs but to be atheist is not to inherently disbelieve in God existing, it means not having a belief in such a god.

You can be agnostic and be an atheist. Most atheists are agnostic, however they don't say agnostic because agnostic sounds like you believe that there ARE things but you don't know what they are, vs. Atheism which means you don't have a belief in things, and it could very well be that there are no things spiritual.