Mark claimed what Atheism is, through a simple and witty analysing of my post. If you wish to dispute the (obviously) subjective term, dispute it with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandform
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Mark claimed what Atheism is, through a simple and witty analysing of my post. If you wish to dispute the (obviously) subjective term, dispute it with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandform
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Originally Posted by Sandform
How are animals Atheists? they don't even have a clue, to be an atheist is a choice, not "not knowing" thus animals can't be an atheist. Before the whole god thing even started nobody was an atheist, because they did not know, like animals don't know. Atheism is a choice, like i said. If you refuse to believe Atheism is a choice then you have to refuse religion is a choice too.
All that is required to be an Atheist is to have a lack of belief in the supernatural. "Animals don't know." That is exactly my point. They have no belief in the supernatural. They don't disbelieve it (because they don't know) but they don't believe it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidFlanders
I fail to see where I said atheism wasn't a choice...
You guys act like animals are some disconnected type of organism from humans...
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Originally Posted by Sandform
Animals don't have a choice, so they can't be an atheist who have choice.
Lack of belief=choose to believe or not, and not "not knowing" so i rest my case.
What are you talking about? If you don't know about something then you have a lack of belief in it. That doesn't mean you have a belief in the lack of it. Animals most certainly are atheist.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidFlanders
You had no case to begin with.
Lack of belief and Belief in lack are two different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidFlanders
You seem to confuse them.
Well then Atheists don't have a lack of belief, they just don't believe so i am still right.
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If you DON'T believe then you have a LACK of BELIEF.
Lol why does this remind me of third grade?Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidFlanders
If you don't believe then you don't believe.
Read slowly.
I shall explain this again:
Not believing in something is the same thing as Not believing in something. When you do not believe in something you show a lack of belief in it.
Gettit?
What does 3rd grade have to do about anything? i guess this is how you roll, don't like what you see and "ZOMG YUO ARE TEH STUPIDCAKEZ@@!!!!!!!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandform
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Originally Posted by Seismosaur
Not believing in something is not believing in something. Lack of belief is not the same....i don't believe in hell, i don't have a lack in belief of hell since everyone says "hell is a place you suffer forever in". I just don't believe it because it sounds like a load of crap, and not because i can't understand it.
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THEN YOU HAVE A LACK OF A BELIEF.
My Flying Spaghetti Monster you are not catching on!
I edited, read what i posted.
You don't believe.
Therefore, you lack belief in it.
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Originally Posted by Seismosaur
I don't believe because i don't want to believe in it. It's not like say something i have no idea about, something like that i have a lack of belief in because i know nothing about it, not because i choose to not believe it. Obviously my "lack" of belief is not your "lack" of belief.
NO YOU STUPID SHIT!!!
"Lack of belief" is the same as "Not having a belief"!!!
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Originally Posted by Seismosaur
That's your lack of belief, mine is different. What you call lack of belief i call "don't believe", what i call lack of belief is not knowing...like a dog can't be an atheist because the dog can't know and does not know, it's not a choice like us to "lack" belief in it.
1+2=3
Therefore
3=2+1
It's the same. I've tried to explain that, what, nine times?
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Originally Posted by Seismosaur
Good for you, is my opinion changing because of it? no.
Opinion < Fact
Care to explain how lack of belief is different from not having a belief? :?
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Originally Posted by Seismosaur
Lack of belief is different.