Thread: Do you believe Popeye exists in reality?

You are all wrong. I define popeye as Spinoza's popeye, ie. the whole of reality. Hence he clearly exists, and any people who say otherwise are in denial.

Originally Posted by Xei

You are all wrong. I define popeye as Spinoza's popeye, ie. the whole of reality. Hence he clearly exists, and any people who say otherwise are in denial.

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Originally Posted by Xei

You are all wrong. I define popeye as Spinoza's popeye, ie. the whole of reality. Hence he clearly exists, and any people who say otherwise are in denial.

Pure brilliance in post form.

Spinoza's Popeye...
is there a Spinoza's Olive Oyl?

Originally Posted by Xei

You are all wrong. I define popeye as Spinoza's popeye, ie. the whole of reality. Hence he clearly exists, and any people who say otherwise are in denial.

:bravo:

Yeah, since Popeye can be defined so many different ways, nobody truly does not believe in Popeye. Since my God is now a wrench, the socks that used to be my God are now Popeye.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

:bravo:

Yeah, since Popeye can be defined so many different ways, nobody truly does not believe in Popeye. Since my God is now a wrench, the socks that used to be my God are now Popeye.

Words exist for a reason, they're symbols so people know what we're talking about. If you want to call socks popeye and wrenches God, then you're just going to confuse everybody. The word God exists for a reason, so the people that DO believe in it are able to talk about it. They don't really care if you worship a wrench.

And honestly, you can't prove the non-existence of popeye. I say Pop-eye is a real person because my thoughts are just as real as matter, just made of something else. Furthermore, existence is so vast, and it gets a million times bigger every time we come across some new technology. It's probably infinite, with every possible form of existence in some place, in some time, in some universe.

EDIT: And as this relates to WMDs, just because I can't prove pop-eye doesn't exist doesn't mean I'm going to eat spinach whenever I'm getting bullied. I might try it once and realize it doesn't work, but then I won't claim it works afterwards anyway and make up evidence.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Words exist for a reason, they're symbols so people know what we're talking about. If you want to call socks popeye and wrenches God, then you're just going to confuse everybody. The word God exists for a reason, so the people that DO believe in it are able to talk about it.

That was exactly my point, via satire.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

And honestly, you can't prove the non-existence of popeye. I say Pop-eye is a real person because my thoughts are just as real as matter, just made of something else. Furthermore, existence is so vast, and it gets a million times bigger every time we come across some new technology. It's probably infinite, with every possible form of existence in some place, in some time, in some universe.

I asked if Popeye exists in reality, not if the thought of Popeye exists in reality.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

EDIT: And as this relates to WMDs, just because I can't prove pop-eye doesn't exist doesn't mean I'm going to eat spinach whenever I'm getting bullied. I might try it once and realize it doesn't work, but then I won't claim it works afterwards anyway and make up evidence.

What major intelligence sources reported stockpiles of Popeye in the hands of a government that once used Popeye in a terrorist attack?

The intelligence was BS, even you know that. It was falsified, there are a million billion books published about how the intellignce was BS. Bush even stopped talking about those reasons as much as possible because he knows the evidence was BS. Most of his cabinet have issued statements admitting that their goal was the create a reason to go into Iraq. There's as much evidence for WMDs in this nation as for Pop-eye.

Popeye is a real thought, therefore he exists in reality, not as a thought, but as pop-eye. Gravity exists in reality, even though its still just a thought. Everything that exists in reality that you can't see in front of you exists as a thought. Theory on what you think existence is, nothing more. Pop-eye is as real as the moon and the sun and my carpet because in the end they'll always still just be ideas. You can't get outside of your thoughts and see the world for what it is, you'll always just have your thoughts, conclusions based on information your senses have collected.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

The intelligence was BS, even you know that. It was falsified, there are a million billion books published about how the intellignce was BS. Bush even stopped talking about those reasons as much as possible because he knows the evidence was BS. Most of his cabinet have issued statements admitting that their goal was the create a reason to go into Iraq. There's as much evidence for WMDs in this nation as for Pop-eye.

Why in the world do you want to argue about this yet again and in the Religion forum of all places? The Clinton Administration argued that the regime had WMD's long before most of the country even knew who George W. Bush was. Our intelligence came from several other governments and certain officials at the U.N. along with the CIA. It was not just made up out of the blue by Bush.

Take this to one of the Iraq threads in Extended Discussion if you want to continue with this dead horse.

Originally Posted by Omnius Deus

Popeye is a real thought, therefore he exists in reality, not as a thought, but as pop-eye. Gravity exists in reality, even though its still just a thought. Everything that exists in reality that you can't see in front of you exists as a thought. Theory on what you think existence is, nothing more. Pop-eye is as real as the moon and the sun and my carpet because in the end they'll always still just be ideas. You can't get outside of your thoughts and see the world for what it is, you'll always just have your thoughts, conclusions based on information your senses have collected.

So, nothing exists outside of thought? I disagree. Real things that are not just thoughts are at the root of the brain activity that causes thoughts, and the images of our perceptions are based on real things that exist outside of thoughts.

If I have a thought of the fact that your post is false, does that mean the false nature of your post exists in reality?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

So, nothing exists outside of thought? I disagree. Real things that are not just thoughts are at the root of the brain activity that causes thoughts, and the images of our perceptions are based on real things that exist outside of thoughts.

If I have a thought of the fact that your post is false, does that mean the false nature of your post exists in reality?

I'm not saying truth doesn't exist, I'm saying that thoughts are as real as matter is, it just exists as a subtlety. But how do you know subtleties aren't real? If you can imagine popeye in your brain, doesn't that make him real?

We spend our lifetimes trying to rationalize bizarre shit, editting our perspectives with every thought. As they develop we create a theory of the universe in our heads. Everybody's is slightly unique, based on their life experiences and the information they have gathered.

But you live here, where is here? You spend your time in only two levels of existence, the physical realm and your dreams. It is essentially the perceiver and the perceived. We can perceive things from anywhere, our imaginations, our senses, whatever, all that has to take place is that we are aware of something we consider distinct from ourselves.

So what kind of egotistical idiot could claim that he knows one god damned thing about what's real and what's not when all he has is a collection of things that he's perceived. Infinite means everything, it means every possible form existence is taking place somewhere at some time in some level of existence. Time doesn't have a beginning, nor an end. Consciousness has existed forever, life has existed for ever. There are probably a billion different universes with a billion different types of physical laws that the beings there have to obey. Probably? How could there possibly not be?