Thread: Atheists do you wish you could beleive in god?

One thing I've found with people who believe in God is, they all believe god is all-knowing. If he's all knowing, then that implies that the future is already pre-determined (hence why he knows what will happen), which means I'm not in control of my actions, nor is anyone else, which means no one should be punished for sinning, since its beyond our control thanks to how HE designed the universe.

On the other hand, if the future isn't pre-determined, then all god seems to know, is PROBABLE outcomes, and in which case, he's no more all-knowing than I am. I can look at 2 situations, and know which one will have a more favorable outcome, but won't know for sure which one will be taken.

So the fact of God Being all knowing, contradicts people being punished for sinning since its beyond their control.

Originally Posted by The Tao

One thing I've found with people who believe in God is, they all believe god is all-knowing. If he's all knowing, then that implies that the future is already pre-determined (hence why he knows what will happen), which means I'm not in control of my actions, nor is anyone else, which means no one should be punished for sinning, since its beyond our control thanks to how HE designed the universe.

On the other hand, if the future isn't pre-determined, then all god seems to know, is PROBABLE outcomes, and in which case, he's no more all-knowing than I am. I can look at 2 situations, and know which one will have a more favorable outcome, but won't know for sure which one will be taken.

So the fact of God Being all knowing, contradicts people being punished for sinning since its beyond their control.

and of course if your second suggestion that he doesn't entirely know is correct, then he can't be all powerful either.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

and of course if your second suggestion that he doesn't entirely know is correct, then he can't be all powerful either.

Which is the argument that we always say every 10 minutes, but it never seems to hold any ground with anybody except for us.

Damn Christians.

Thats ok, if we reiterate it enough, it'll get the point across. I just happened across a hilarious picture too.

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Originally Posted by The Tao

Thats ok, if we reiterate it enough, it'll get the point across. I just happened across a hilarious picture too.

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! Thats hilarious!