Thread: A thought on the Bible...

Originally Posted by wendylove

Atheist proberly only make up 10% of America.
Why did Christianity lock up Galileo?
Why does Christianity want creationist to be taught in science class?
Why does Christianity stop abortion?
Why is Christianity against gay marriages?
Why is Christianity against condom use in Africa, even though it would save thousands of people?
e.t.c.

I bet you also blame video games for kids going off and doing Grand Theft Auto shit.

And you probably also blame music for some murders here and there.

I'm pretty sure Christianity didn't do or believe all of those things. People did and do.

Originally Posted by De-lousedInTheComatorium

I bet you also blame video games for kids going off and doing Grand Theft Auto shit.

And you probably also blame music for some murders here and there.

I'm pretty sure Christianity didn't do or believe all of those things. People did and do.

He can believe whatever he wants about video games...no one has proven that violent games produce violent children. I play all sorts of violent games and it's actually taught me to be very nice...

And music has been proven to have "hidden messages" in them which caused some people to commit suicide or something.

I was going to say something else but I forgot...

Originally Posted by slayer

He can believe whatever he wants about video games...no one has proven that violent games produce violent children. I play all sorts of violent games and it's actually taught me to be very nice...

And music has been proven to have "hidden messages" in them which caused some people to commit suicide or something.

I was going to say something else but I forgot...

I believe that's wrong. None of that causes people to kill. People's decisions to kill cause them to kill. I hate it when people blame the tool.

Are we alking about video games or music?

Originally Posted by slayer

Are we alking about video games or music?

Both. Both are tools that by themselves don't cause anything. When people use them, interpret them in ways people usually don't and then end up killing people, it isn't religion's or music's fault. It's the person's fault for making a bad choice and being an idiot for regarding the law.

cuddleyperson:
you said a whole lot of irrelevant stuff in your post, i said contradictions between two pieces of text, not contemporary and biblical-contextual differences.


Need a cat scan: how is that indoctrination. It is a point of view from someone who is a true believer in the bible. It need not effect anyone.

How did video games and music merge their way into this conversation ?
Personally I believe that video games are harmless in normal people. But a person who is vulnerable to mental illness particularly schizophrenia, i think games like GTA provide a utility or ideas in which to react violently in society.
Although, music is more real than the pure escapism of games: i think that people can take violent lyrics to heart. This can be done so in a larger amount of people than it occurs for video games. Ithink it depends on how one listens to music, for what reasons. Is it just for light entertainment. Or are they fascinated by the often negative ideologies music i music. Notwithstanding, I don't think that music leads to the seemingly random killings of video games but to persons with a violent attitude.

The negative subliminal messaging in music is complete crap in my opinion, a paranoid fantasy, it does not exist.

Originally Posted by psychology student

Need a cat scan: how is that indoctrination. It is a point of view from someone who is a true believer in the bible. It need not effect anyone.

It fricken affects me when I have christians deciding who is going to be president, that I can't get married to my lover and telling me I'm going to hell. How is it indoctrination? Well if you saw it from my perspective (that everything you say is completely rediculous and you quite possibly should be committed) then you would know why you're indoctrinated.

fine last post here i swear! Ok here are contradictions between pieces of text...

Although these quotes areveryfar apart, i still think they are contradictions.

1.PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

2.EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

possibly your faith is in fact polytheistic?

3. MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

different accounts of Josephs father here

4. JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

so is Jesus not as powerful as his father, making them seperate beings, or are they the same one?

5.GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

it seems here that one account says God made animals before man where as the other suggests man was made first then animals were made.

6. PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

there seems to be confusion weither widsomis a positive thing or a bad thing.

7. ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Confusion whether children are to be blamed for the sins of generations before them, i assume they are as their is original sin which is meant to be passed down, but i'm not sure...

8. LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

i don't believe hares do chew cud like cows..

eh that's enough of them.

Also unrelated but i found this and it's interesting..

Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)