Thread: A thought on the Bible...

Christianity isn't compulsory, so your dogamtic authoratative argument is worthless, Christians don't make you follow the religion. Only when you become a Christian do you abide by these "dogmatic" laws.
It sounds like you hate the fundamentals of religion, no religion is an easy ride, relatively all of them are commitments.

And if everbody hated everything that conflicted with their "world view", where would we be? Have you ever heard of tolerance?

Please tell me why it is "hilariously nonsensical". And please give me some examples of hypocrisy.



And your misinformed: the Christians did not hang Jesus on the cross, the Romans did, on behalf of the Priests. This is the Christians' symbol as, in their opinion, it reminds us what Jesus did for mankind. He died to offer all humans the oppurtunity for forgiveness for their sin. Christians don't worship blood or death, but the cross is symbolic for God incarnate sacrificing himself for humankind; its merely symbolic. You must experience something, theoretically or practically before you decide whether you like it or not. By your mistake you have not.


And your admission that "since I'm German I won't say anything about Judaism" implies that you hate Judaism as well, but hinder yourself from admitting it because of the Holocaust.

And how does "Islam" equate to "Hitler"? Explain yourself when you make these dangerous statements!


And Wendylove please explain how the Hitler thing is "techniquely Christianity fault".

Originally Posted by psychology student

Christianity isn't compulsory, so your dogamtic authoratative argument is worthless, Christians don't make you follow the religion. Only when you become a Christian do you abide by these "dogmatic" laws.

I could be wrong, but I would guess that most Christians are Christians from childhood onwards. And children cannot choose a religion. Also, it doesn't matter whether Christianity is compulsory or not. It's still highly dogmatic, even more so than many of the religions that I tolerate. Obviously you have to be a Christian to experience this dogmatism, but that's the whole basis of the argument, so you're not really making any sense.

It sounds like you hate the fundamentals of religion, no religion is an easy ride, relatively all of them are commitments.

I don't hate the fundamentals of religion. I already named a number of religions that I can tolerate and appreciate for what they have brought to the world and to their followers.

And if everbody hated everything that conflicted with their "world view", where would we be? Have you ever heard of tolerance?

I'm not tolerant regarding things that conflict my world view. There are really not many things that do, but Christianity is one of them, for the reasons I explained above. There's simply a limit to tolerance and open-mindedness and this limit is reached once you open the Bible.

List of things that I tolerate: theism, spiritism, superstition, general idiocy, Emo kids, being an asshole, being jobless, any personal, sexual, physical or mental choice, change, adaption, defect, inclination or desire as long as nobody gets hurt and I get my sammich. This is already more than Christianity tolerates.

I should also note that my intolerance is guided towards the religion and not towards its followers as a whole, but only parts of them. The more fundie ones, as you might guess.

Please tell me why it is "hilariously nonsensical". And please give me some examples of hypocrisy.

No, I'm too tired. Google it.

And your misinformed: the Christians did not hang Jesus on the cross

No shit. I never said that. What would be the point of hanging your saviour?

, the Romans did, on behalf of the Priests. This is the Christians' symbol as, in their opinion, it reminds us what Jesus did for mankind.

He didn't do shit. He got nailed to a cross, big deal.

He died to offer all humans the oppurtunity for forgiveness for their sin.

This sentence doesn't make any sense.

Christians don't worship blood or death, but the cross is symbolic for God incarnate sacrificing himself for humankind;

Sacrifices are nonsense, unless there's an actual connection between the object of sacrifice and the effect that one hopes to achieve. If you sacrifice yourself to your lover by catching a bullet aimed at him, this is a useful sacrifice. If you get nailed to a cross, so what?

And your admission that "since I'm German I won't say anything about Judaism" implies that you hate Judaism as well, but hinder yourself from admitting it because of the Holocaust.

You are wrong. The mere fact that I said that I will not say anything about Judaism implies exactly this: Nothing. Hence I said nothing about Judaism, thus neither expressing nor implying something.

Matter of fact, my knowledge of Judaism is very limited, so I don't actually have an opinion about it.

And how does "Islam" equate to "Hitler"? Explain yourself when you make these dangerous statements!

I didn't equate Islam to Hitler. I made an analogy between two comparisons.

You are the hypocrite: "I hate Christianity because it is dogmatic", when you are unwilling to consider anyhting and hate everything outside of your world view _ this is unadulterated dogmatism.

"He didn't do shit. He got nailed to a cross, big deal." Chrisitianity is the largest religion on planet earth, he obviously did something, take a hint. Don't you think saying that is offensive to Chrisitians.


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He died to offer all humans the oppurtunity for forgiveness for their sin.

This sentence doesn't make any sense."

If you understood Christianity, you would know it makes sense. Clearly you don't so don't make impulsive judgments.


Wendylove: your generalising small groups to whole religions. If I said that all Germans should be blamed for the Nazis actions, I would be generalising and subsequently wrong. Therefore, you cannot generalise Lutheranism, or the actions of some catholics to the whole of Christianity.

Originally Posted by psychology student

You are the hypocrite: "I hate Christianity because it is dogmatic", when you are unwilling to consider anyhting and hate everything outside of your world view _ this is unadulterated dogmatism.

This is garbage. You are completely ignoring the list of things that I tolerate. I always put my beliefs to critical discussion.

"He didn't do shit. He got nailed to a cross, big deal." Chrisitianity is the largest religion on planet earth, he obviously did something, take a hint.

That doesn't mean anything. Don't believe the hype.

Don't you think saying that is offensive to Chrisitians.

Quite possibly. That's not my fault though. You don't get petting and warm milk only because we're dealing with a religion here. That's the whole point of mock religions: Actually showing that, if you were the only person believing specific things, you'd get criticism from everywhere or end up in the loony bin. But once you put the "religion" tag on it, everyone has to be super-tolerant and respectful about that group of beliefs which are completely nonsensical. I don't see why I should treat a religion differently from any other set of beliefs.

I'll tell you one thing Jesus did, turned water into wine!! ( we assume this meant he did it instantly. However has no one considered their was no specific mention of the time it took. Maybe he got grapes, allowed them to ferment, basically how we know he did not just have a small vineyard at one point and made some good quality wines. Some Christians debate on how long it took God to make the world many now saying it was not literally 7 earth days, so we could debate something which doesn't even mention a time scale. We assume it was instantaneous, but the event could be exaggerated when written down.)

That's gonna easily have more then half the worlds people bowing at your feet!!!

I wish i could just go back in time and kill however the hell added all the hateful shit. Also i;d probably break the Mark,John,Luke etcs fingers so they couldn't spill any other hateful shit into it.

In fact out of all the main stream religions I'd say it's the most discriminative. That's my problem with every religion. Ok so maybe MAYBE 1/10000000000 chance there is a God. But he certainly has and will not speak to us, hateful people through their ideas into books. They used power and fear to spread them as fact. They traveled the world in ships to the continents of less developed people with a bible in one hand and a blade in the other. Bow or die, i guess many choose to bow, eventually they even convinced themselves what they were forced to believe was true, how sad...

damn it i keep doing this, i can't even remember what the original theads question was... damn me, at least my crusade was verbal eh?

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Originally Posted by psychology student
You are the hypocrite: "I hate Christianity because it is dogmatic", when you are unwilling to consider anyhting and hate everything outside of your world view _ this is unadulterated dogmatism.

This is garbage. You are completely ignoring the list of things that I tolerate. I always put my beliefs to critical discussion."

Dogmatic? unable to acknowledge my criticism and its obvious existence. Now you are a double hypocrite, as you are a hypocrite and accused Christianity of hypocrisy! Religion is a serious thing, you should treat it with respect. Yes, I realise your "tag" argument, but this does not apply to Christianity, it is an ancient religion.

Cuddly person: Christians don't follow Jesus solely for his miracles.
"I wish i could just go back in time and kill however the hell added all the hateful shit. Also i;d probably break the Mark,John,Luke etcs fingers so they couldn't spill any other hateful shit into it". Which would mean we would still have the gospel of Matthew, hahaha, you would have failed!
But what do you mean "hateful shit", what "hateful shit" is there? Please explain!

And please explain how Christianity is the most discriminative religion?

Colonialism is not part of Christianity, you shouldn't affiliate the two. A group of people decided to promote Christianity in this way! Christianity did not promote itself and everyone is a sinner and capable of wrong.


Why does everyone hate Christianity so much? Is it past experiences? Is it envy? What is it?

Mainly it is the horrible quotes in the Book, and don't ignore them by saying " oh but they don't apply, oh but that's for that circumstances, oh but Gods changed now a days, he was cranky back then, oh but we don't believe anything our apostles say if it seems horrible etc etc etc" ( bar the cranky ones, they have been told to me by a Christian organization when asking them on discriminative or unfair punishments in the Bible, Bar Hell of course, but no one is that sick.)

There are a few quotes in the Bible which, even to those to like to say they are just symbolic, can seem pretty harsh and unfair:

Lets start with Leviticus 19:20 eh, since these rules are from Gods own mouth to moses.

Leviticus 19:20( this has been shortened by me to get to the point) "If a man has sex with a slave girl he does not own. He is not to be punished if he sacrifices a ram for his sin. She is a slave."

Hmm we can have slave girls, and women are property who be can only assume are being punished for being sex slaves....... So that's why some people follow this religion eh.

but then we have this.. " 'Do not degrade your daughter by making her a prostitute, or the land will turn to prostitution and be filled with wickedness"

make your mind up mate.

ok so the following are more punishments, now i'm not saying we don't discipline people but some of these are a little harsh in my opinion.

"If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head."

" If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Of course that punishment is valid if we follow the Bibles teachings that homosexuals are an abomination. A rules that has caused a lot of suffering in this world for people with different sexual attractions.

"If a man rapes a girl in the city, you must stone him to death, and the woman as well." Deut. 22:24

Of course! It's completely her fault to! Interestingly this applies in Islam to, we saw on the news recently the women who was to be lashed for being raped. George Bush among others disapproved of this barbaric practice, and yet it is the done thing, their own God says so.

'If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

and they say fur is murder! lol

'If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people.

little harsh, she should have told him really, or if it was the first day of it, then really is being exiled not a bit extreme.

Ok well there are literally dozens more in Leviticus alone, most of the rules in Leviticus are sexually related, basically making us afraid of our most natural instincts.


something else rather mean

Leviticus 15:19 "When a woman has a discharge of blood which is her regular discharge from her body, she shall be in her impurity for seven days, and whoever touches her shall be unclean until the evening. And everything upon which she lies during her impurity shall be unclean; everything also upon which she sits shall be unclean. And whoever touches her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the evening. And whoever touches anything upon which she sits shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the evening; whether it is the bed or anything upon which she sits, when he touches it he shall be unclean until the evening. And on the eighth day she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, and bring them to the priest, to the door of the tent of meeting. And the priest shall offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her before the LORD for her unclean discharge. Warn the people of their uncleanness lest it be the cause of their death in their uncleanness by defiling my tabernacle that is in their midst. This is the law for him who has a discharge and for him who has an emission of semen, becoming unclean thereby; also for her who is sick with her impurity; that is, for any one, male or female, who has a discharge.

Leviticus 15:2 "Say to the people of Israel, When any man has a discharge from his body, his discharge is unclean. And this is the law of his uncleanness for a discharge... same as above for the way to resolve the sin"

so manty sins are dealt with my animal offerings yet...

Isaiah 66:3 "He who slaughters an ox is like him who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like him who breaks a dog’s neck; he who presents a cereal offering, like him who offers swine‘s blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like him who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; I also will choose affliction for them, and bring down upon their heads the very thing that they most dread."


What are we to do! No matter what we do we are going to be afflicted by God and sent to Hell, it's lose lose no matter what, lol.

Originally Posted by psychology student

Christianity isn't compulsory, so your dogamtic authoratative argument is worthless, Christians don't make you follow the religion. Only when you become a Christian do you abide by these "dogmatic" laws.

Not compulsory huh? No, he just makes us burn in eternal agony in a lake of fire if we don't follow, sure, they're not making us follow their religion.

Charles Darwin denounced it on his deathbed

This statement shows you have not done research on anything on the opposing side of the religious debate.

No it came from an interpreter of Chrisitanity, not from the bible, therefore it did not come from Christianity.

Other things that come from the bible:

-It is okay to own slaves as long as you don't beat them too badly
-Eternal torture for not accepting Jesus
-Homosexuals, adulterers, workers on the sabbath should all be stoned to death

Oh yeah, wait, you're going to interpret those to fit within the current moral zeitgeist.

Please tell me why it is "hilariously nonsensical".

-You're gonna burn in eternal agony and torture if you don't believe something with no proof. But smile, god loves you
-A worldwide flood where an old geezer put every "kind" (which they still can't figure out what that is) of animal onto one boat with one window. Oh yeah, and NO archaeological or topographical evidence to support it
-The world was created in 6 days and is less than 10,000 years old (for creationists, which is, by the way, in plain English in the bible, so according to your logic it must be true).
-Moses, parting the sea, the 10 plagues, bondage in Egypt along with 40 years of wandering. Oh yeah, NO evidence

And please give me some examples of hypocrisy.

-Jesus: Look at this great grueling sacrifice I made for you! I went through so much pain. But not as much pain as you non-believers! You'll burn in a lake of fire for eternity which makes my little dance on the cross look like nothing!
-god: I'm a jealous god, but don't be jealous of your neighbor for his wife.

Chrisitianity is the largest religion on planet earth, he obviously did something, take a hint. Don't you think saying that is offensive to Chrisitians.

Oh, go with the crowd, that's your best defense of your religion?
And dude, the offense of religious people is the biggest thing stopping rational thought when it comes to religion. If you have the same faith in anything else that you have in religion you would be considered a mad man. Try it. Yes, it is time you stop being offended and look at it rationally, and if you still believe it, then fine and dandy. But don't shut it down because it questions your faith and "offends" you.

He died to offer all humans the opportunity for forgiveness for their sin.

Yes, we've all either been indoctrinated or know people who are, thank you.

it is not compulsory, which is why you guys can bash it when you like!
You guys don't understand modern Christianity, you living too much in the old testament.
First of all, ones needs to understand the context of the bible such as the slave thing. Slavery was normal then, but not now, and no Christian today will accept slavery.


"Homosexuals, adulterers, workers on the sabbath should all be stoned to death", this was part of the law of the old testament, essetially the Torah, the law. Jesus turned this all around. By his death he made it possible to be forgiven for our sin. All you have to do is genuinely ask for forgiveness, and be sorry for your sin and genuinely try to abstain in the future. And believe that Jesus is "the way the truth and the life". Is that really that hard and dogmatic?

"believe something with no proof", this is what is called faith? Now its you choice what to believe? Completely you choice? When Christians preach to you, it doesn't mean that they don't like you? it doesn't mean that their trying to indoctrinate you? From their perspective of belief in Christianity, they are trying to help you? But we have a choice? and Christianity is not provable? Its your choice? Death will come, and we'll see the truth, we'll see whose right? Who knows which way is right? I hope you all make the right choice and I hope that I make the right choice?
This reality offers no reason to bash Christianity?

"-god: I'm a jealous god, but don't be jealous of your neighbor for his wife"

If God is real then he has a right to be jealous, because inherent in the concept that God exists is that he created everything. Therefore, his jealousy is not jealousy but anger at theft. Hopefully you understand!


"And dude, the offense of religious people is the biggest thing stopping rational thought when it comes to religion". No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't say that for one minute. People should be able to do what they like? God gives people a choice, according to Christianity? You guys are just hating Christianity for no reason. And I want to know why that is? Personally, I think science, poverty e.t.c should all come first. Religion should be, largely, a personal thing.

and Wendylove: it is catholicism that advises against condom use in africa, which the pope reversed recently. But do not equate catholicism with the whole of christianity. And christianity is against gay marriages because it thinks that homosexuality is wrong.

Would a perfect being feel anger towards his creations, unless he created us imperfectly, but that cannot be otherwise he would not be a perfect creator. A perfect being just cannot exist, you can't be perfect in every way.

A perfect being just cannot exist, you can't be perfect in every way.

That theory was disproven when I was born. I am perfect in every way.

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ANYWAY... i'm going to stop posting in this thread, i hope it gets back on track, sorry everyone, went a little crazy..

Wendylove: it is catholicism that advises against condom use in africa, which the pope reversed recently.

They read the same book. Either way, the ban has not be reversed can you provide your source. Countless people have died, which could have been prevented because of a stupid book.

Not only Catholic won't listen to reason because they have the bible to tell them what to do.

Originally Posted by psychology student

First of all, ones needs to understand the context of the bible such as the slave thing. Slavery was normal then, but not now, and no Christian today will accept slavery.

That is fine. However I must note that the entire point of having a book-based religion such as Christianity is to use the book as its foundation. But once people realized that most of what the Bible says is immoral, intolerant and garbage, Christianity slowly started interpreting things in very new ways, so as not to be accused of being reactionary and inhumane. Modern Christianity is a farce.

"Homosexuals, adulterers, workers on the sabbath should all be stoned to death", this was part of the law of the old testament, essetially the Torah, the law. Jesus turned this all around. By his death he made it possible to be forgiven for our sin.

So what? It's still in the bible and it's still denounced as something immoral, wrong, sinful, whatever. I find this pretty weak. Especially when I hear Christians go "Well homosexuality isn't really right, but if you're born that way then this is probably God's plan for you and the gay man should probably pray for forgiveness and try to abstain" or whatever garbage and get caught up in all sorts of lousy contradictions.

"Homosexuals are equal to heterosexuals": this is not a statement that can be brought into alignment with Christian ethics. And this in itself I find distasteful.

Religions that some thought went into, such as Taoism, don't even give a crap about such earthly matters.

All you have to do is genuinely ask for forgiveness, and be sorry for your sin and genuinely try to abstain in the future. And believe that Jesus is "the way the truth and the life". Is that really that hard and dogmatic?

Yes.

"believe something with no proof", this is what is called faith? Now its you choice what to believe? Completely you choice? When Christians preach to you, it doesn't mean that they don't like you? it doesn't mean that their trying to indoctrinate you? From their perspective of belief in Christianity, they are trying to help you?

There's still no valid reason for their beliefs.

But we have a choice? and Christianity is not provable? Its your choice? Death will come, and we'll see the truth, we'll see whose right? Who knows which way is right?

Nobody does but Christianity claims to know that they're right. That's the whole point.

I hope you all make the right choice and I hope that I make the right choice?
This reality offers no reason to bash Christianity?

It does.

"-god: I'm a jealous god, but don't be jealous of your neighbor for his wife"

If God is real then he has a right to be jealous, because inherent in the concept that God exists is that he created everything. Therefore, his jealousy is not jealousy but anger at theft. Hopefully you understand!

I don't.

"And dude, the offense of religious people is the biggest thing stopping rational thought when it comes to religion". No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't say that for one minute. People should be able to do what they like? God gives people a choice, according to Christianity?

Except you get to burn in hell if you make the wrong choice. That's not really a choice then, is it?

You guys are just hating Christianity for no reason. And I want to know why that is? Personally, I think science, poverty e.t.c should all come first. Religion should be, largely, a personal thing.

Hey, I agree with you. As I said, I don't really have a problem with theism as a personal philosophical position. However, Christianity goes WAAAYYYY beyond theism, since it actually refers to real world events and interprets them in a mystical way. After all, it's Christianity and not Godism.

"Homosexuals are equal to heterosexuals", nobody said they were unequal. In the eyes of christianity, everybody is a sinner. Homosexuality is just another sin. If a person is born homosexual, this is deterministic, it is not their fault, it is only when they act out their desires that they sin, in the eyes of Christianity.

"Except you get to burn in hell if you make the wrong choice. That's not really a choice then, is it?"

The choice is to believe or not to believe. If you don't believe Christianity, then you do believe that you won't burn in hell. However, you quote slightly sounds as if you do believe but resent the coldness and brutalness of this reality, and thus rebel from the whole religion and defame it as a result. From this I am going to guess that you have some Christian influence in your life. Perhaps parents? Am I right?


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But we have a choice? and Christianity is not provable? Its your choice? Death will come, and we'll see the truth, we'll see whose right? Who knows which way is right?
Nobody does but Christianity claims to know that they're right. That's the whole point."

Everyody claims to know that they are right, its a human thing. You claim that Christianity is wrong, which is the same thing. It comes down to human arrogance and not Christian credibility.

And finally, religion is beyond reason, it is beyond life. God, if he exists is beyond space and time. Therefore, you cannot judge religion by reason or science. What you need is spiritual direction and faith.


"most of what the Bible says is immoral, intolerant and garbage", small parts of it can be interpreted in this way. Be careful how you address the bible, please, so as not to cause offence. Try to address it in formal terms. A guy said once that the bible is infallible; if an apparent contradiction emerges then one of the facets of the contradiction have been interpreted wrongly!


And Wendylove, you are not perfect. For one, you grammar was lacking a few posts ago.

Originally Posted by psychology student

"Homosexuals are equal to heterosexuals", nobody said they were unequal. In the eyes of christianity, everybody is a sinner. Homosexuality is just another sin. If a person is born homosexual, this is deterministic, it is not their fault, it is only when they act out their desires that they sin, in the eyes of Christianity.

OK, great.

"Except you get to burn in hell if you make the wrong choice. That's not really a choice then, is it?"

The choice is to believe or not to believe. If you don't believe Christianity, then you do believe that you won't burn in hell. However, you quote slightly sounds as if you do believe but resent the coldness and brutalness of this reality, and thus rebel from the whole religion and defame it as a result. From this I am going to guess that you have some Christian influence in your life. Perhaps parents? Am I right?

No.

And finally, religion is beyond reason, it is beyond life. God, if he exists is beyond space and time. Therefore, you cannot judge religion by reason or science. What you need is spiritual direction and faith.

Christ isn't beyond space and time. According to Christianity, he was very real. Just like all the other things you find in the bible. So yeah, as I said, Christianity goes way beyond philosophy and spirituality. I'd consider myself spiritual, though an agnostic atheist.

"most of what the Bible says is immoral, intolerant and garbage", small parts of it can be interpreted in this way. Be careful how you address the bible, please, so as not to cause offence. Try to address it in formal terms. A guy said once that the bible is infallible; if an apparent contradiction emerges then one of the facets of the contradiction have been interpreted wrongly!

Yeah.

Originally Posted by psychology student

"most of what the Bible says is immoral, intolerant and garbage", small parts of it can be interpreted in this way. Be careful how you address the bible, please, so as not to cause offence. Try to address it in formal terms. A guy said once that the bible is infallible; if an apparent contradiction emerges then one of the facets of the contradiction have been interpreted wrongly!

Holy crap. Now THAT is indoctrination.

Originally Posted by Needcatscan

Holy crap. Now THAT is indoctrination.

He has it right over here!

" If it doesn't make sense, then your reading it wrong!" . Just keep that logic if you when your reading the Bible, apparantly it's the only way it makes sense, even Christians say so.

SO if you ever see " stone homosexuals" or something discriminative. What it obviously meant was " Give homosexuals your spare stones, for you must love them even more because they are troubled"

When it says " offer your daughter to the crowd of villagers to gang rape so that stranger can stay with you without being attacked" means. " Explain to the mob hat raping is very bad, by making think about their own daughters being raped( assuming the father wasn't paid, then it's fine, this is the old God days before Jesus remember) and they will go away educated"

Also if you don;t think the OT applies anymore, i assume the commandments and the creation story, the story of Adam and Eve etc, don't apply either. Which means original Sin doesn't apply, because Jesus took it away. Which means no one is born a sinner any more, this was Jesus's sacrifice. This means unless one sins a lot, no one shall burn in Hell. The end.

BY PSYCHOLOGY STUDENT

"Be careful how you address the bible, please, so as not to cause offense. Try to address it in formal terms. A guy said once that the bible is infallible; if an apparent contradiction emerges then one of the facets of the contradiction have been interpreted wrongly!"

So if anything contradicts the Christian definition of God " All loving, all merciful", IT IS WRONG!!!!

If know an interesting programme to watch is Stargate SG-1, shame it is over. The last few series's had a group of religious people known as the "Ori". Their book and message was similar to the Bible, in fact the parables were almost identical apart from name changes. They went around converting other races by first performing a miracle such as healing a man( with technology or their Gods working through them). If the race did not accept the message of the Ori and would not bow to their God, the Ori would burn their villages and make them suffer. Then ask again if they wanted forgiveness, if they stood firm against the Ori they would kill the rest.



OK OK before i get told off i shall no longer post in this thread!!