Thread: A thought on the Bible...

Reasonable question.

Imagine the results of L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. When I visited a Church of Scientology, they made subtle comments like "It is as if he was inspired by a God" etc.

So, we can see how he might be eventually revered as a God.

What do you think...?

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Most of the new testament, at least, is historical. The Bible wasn't written by one guy but is a collection of accounts put together by scholars. Those who wrote it, didn't know about the concept of the bible. Those who collated, it and translated it did not write it. Therefore how I see it the theory isunlikely.

Korritke: Why is it that so many have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to Christianity? Chrisitans believe in the Bible, and when statements such as the bible was a mythical ""bunch of stories" made into "totally serious business", I imagine that they are offended. Please qualify this statement in order to avoid offence.

Theres no problem with such a thread as long as unfounded, defamatory statements are not made.

Originally Posted by psychology student

Korritke: Why is it that so many have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to Christianity? Chrisitans believe in the Bible, and when statements such as the bible was a mythical ""bunch of stories" made into "totally serious business", I imagine that they are offended. Please qualify this statement in order to avoid offence.

Theres no problem with such a thread as long as unfounded, defamatory statements are not made.

If anyone feels that they need to believe that a bunch of stories is totally serious business, I don't judge them for that. However, I also wish not to be judged for believing that the Bible is a bunch of stories made into totally serious business. Otherwise, I will feel offended. For clarification, I have a chip on my shoulder when it comes to Christianity probably because I hate Christianity. However, I also wish not to be judged for this (or I will feel offended).

Originally Posted by O'nus

Reasonable question.

Imagine the results of L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. When I visited a Church of Scientology, they made subtle comments like "It is as if he was inspired by a God" etc.

So, we can see how he might be eventually revered as a God.

What do you think...?

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I think that Jungs model of the collective unconcscious is that very essence of which is called "God" in the variety of religions around. Though I would use different terminology than Jung and do not see such quite in the same way as thus far I have read of his description. ( not finished reading yet)

I Look at the situation as being one of "Inner" and "outer" consciousness.

I think that anything written or spoken of that is considered "divine" is a product of the view that results from the combining, or merging, of these two elements of consciousness in some way.

Those who do not have this "evolved" view only see through the outer consciousness. Such persons would likely scoff at the writings of such other people, even to the point of rewriting things to the end of being more "friendly" to their own limited perception.
Most likely there would be enough of the original writing left in the "new" version that others that come along later who have this evolved view, or have an actively evolving view, will recognize those pertinent parts and be able to easily disregard the rest.]

If such is true, then archetypes would exist that are the same from one "religion" to another, archetypes that would be present in such writings. I believe that they do. At least I see them anyhow.

Non Dualistic's view of God emerging from the collective unconscious is an interesting one. In the context of Christianity, there have been views like this: William Blake saw God as an active entity, that was part of the human form and consciousness to an extent; "Man is created in the image of God". Nonetheless there are other views stipulating that God is this distant figure, far removed from humanity, largely leaving humans to their own devices.







Korittke says that he will feel offended if I question the fact that he "hate(s) Christianity". Oh well, how silly, foolish and inconsiderate of me. Respecting ones free speech has a boundary, you cannot expect someone to respect an individuals hatred.

Please tell me why do you hate Christianity?

And yes, I will question any view that has been picked randomnly out of the air, or is derived from personal feuds being unfounded and made without evidence. If I said that all people with names beginning with K are of subnormal intelligence, without evidence that would be unreasonable.Then striving to ask one to respect this view is trying to descend a 10 metre wall with a 5 metre rope.

Originally Posted by Korittke

If anyone feels that they need to believe that a bunch of stories is totally serious business, I don't judge them for that.

But Korittke, if we're not to judge people for making poor decisions, then what can we judge them by?

Originally Posted by Mark75

But Korittke, if we're not to judge people for making poor decisions, then what can we judge them by?

How about the size of their truck, or how much money they have? Or how many LULZ and GURLZ they get?

MmmMmmMmmM, Possibilities.

By Jeezuz, you're right. I take back everything I've ever said.

Originally Posted by Mark75

By Jeezuz, you're right. I take back everything I've ever said.

On a totally unrelated note:

Originally Posted by George W. Bush

The constitution is just a god-damn piece of paper!

Originally Posted by psychology student

Please tell me why do you hate Christianity?

Besides it being dogmatic, authoritative, hypocritical and hilariously nonsensical in many areas, mainly because it conflicts with many other aspects of my world view. The fact alone that the symbol of Christianity is a dead man hanging from a cross I find highly disturbing. In my opinion, this is not something to be worshiped. Dangling from a cross is no special skill, talent or achievement.

The whole of Christianity contains many aspects of self-loathing, self-restraint, asceticism and putting others before yourself which are all things that I do not endorse. Christianity is an anti-self-esteem religion. The image of Christ dieing for the sins of Humanity is so unreasonable, it boggles my mind how anyone would want to look up to that. Dieing and suffering is not something that makes you special or ethically worthy. But Christianity is obsessed with suffering (look at Mother Theresa for example).

Hey, if Christ would have actually done something useful like figuring out laws of the universe, mathematical formulas or tasty cooking recipes, I could accept Christianity more. But he didn't do any of that.

Certainly there are many reasons I disrespect Christianity as a whole. Religions I respect more than Christianity include Taoism, Buddhism, Zen, Satanism, Pastafarianism and some forms of Hinduism. Not Islam though, they're even worse than Christianity, probably the worst religion known to man. Which is worse - Islam or Scientology? That's a tough one, it's kind of like asking "Who's more dangerous - Hitler or Godzilla?"

Since I'm German, I won't say anything about Judaism though.