Thread: Transcendentalism

Transendentalism has two different meanings to me. One is of a person that put people into trance-like states and taught them how to put trances in themselves.

However, I also have other evidence. I'm not calling myself a skeptic but I at least try to be, but look up Edgar Cayce. He put himself in a trance where he transcended this plane of existence and collected information, predicting many future events.

You can also look up Buddha. He predicted many things about his universe cosmologists and other scientists discovered 200 years ago, and also communicated knowledge of frequencies of existence outside our own. He said millions upon millions of different solar systems had multi-layered existence. Furthermore, he said life was part of different cycles, and at the end of very, very long cycles it is destroyed and rebuilt. During this time, everyone below a certain layer of existence, (I say layer speaking in terms of a 4th dimension, but its easier to communicate as if in a 3rd dimension, mathematically speaking) is killed and reborn in a higher layer.

So when one dies, according to the very few that follow the real 8-fold path, and not the "traditional" buddhists that claim enlightenment based on intellectual comprehension of something that isn't even conceptual to an intellectual ego (by itself, at least) or even memory system, connected to the brain. In short, one does not conceptually remember their experiences in ulterior universes, they only remember their brains conceptual, 3d understanding of it, which is not very translative.

This is where I am in my thinking.

I have always believed that I am more than my body. Most religious teachings didn't make sense. Philosophy actually shows me what some religious text is saying.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged." - When you declare that this is "good" and that is "bad" then you are automaticly defining your actions and yourself as such. The problem with religion is, they will say this and then start calling people sinners.

Now, after all my searching and reading, I have a solid understanding of who I am and why I am here. I think it falls into the transcendentalism category. It all makes sense to me and it feels right.

This thread really belongs in the philosophy section.

Wow, I learned that I can make emoticons into links from this! Thanks!
Transcendewhatalism?

Originally Posted by Stupified

This thread really belongs in the philosophy section.

Yeah, I meant to put it there... I must have clicked the wrong forum.

Can somebody move this thread to Philosophy please.

I think this thread is best placed in "religion/spirituality".

No offense, but these 'theories' aren't real philosophy, to me. You could really make up anything you want and say it's philosophy, but unless it actually serves to explain something about the world it's just conjecture.

Seeing as this concept starts out assuming that non-physical components to the human body exist, it's not really logically sound. Spirituality has different requirements for 'soundness', though

Just looked it up in a dictionary. Transcendentalism is a philosophy.

Originally Posted by Stupified

Just looked it up in a dictionary. Transcendentalism is a philosophy.

From what I understand, it is more of a movement which encompasses religion, literature, culture and philosophy.

Really, though, for the purposes of this forum - it is more of a spiritual thing. You simply cannot assume such things as non-physical entities with no backing and then hope to discuss it as philosophy.

What if I said we would all be reincarnated as another animal when we died, and that eventually we would have existed as every single animal and then go to heaven? One could spout such half-baked theories for ages and never get anywhere.

I don't think the goal of philosophy is it prove theories or "go anywhere".

I think it is about ideas or a line of thinking. Sometimes it may lead to paradox or back to the begining.

So your statement that we reincarnate to experience every aspect of ourselves or every possibility of our potential............I LIKE IT!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Stupified

So your statement that we reincarnate to experience every aspect of ourselves or every possibility of our potential............I LIKE IT!!!!!!

Yeah, except for the small problem that it's complete and utter bullshit and makes no sense at all

I guess I don't like calling this stuff 'philosophy' because it gives philosophy a bad name. People come to associate it with vague, zephyrous statements and half-baked pseudo-intellectual nonsense.

Philosophy can be useful, you know. It's more than an endless parade of "what ifs".

I'd agree with Gnome; this is more R/S. Philosophy usually tries not to make any wild assumptions; and makes far more sense.


To reiterate what Gnome said we can come up with any idea at all which can't be disproven [this thread for example]- but it isn't grounded in particularly philisophical thought or reason.

It sounds like it has far more to do sprirituality and religion; faith rather than reason.



Because- reasonably there is no reason to assume that we have a non-physical element to us. In making this assumption we jump into the realm of faith

and hence into Religion and Spirituality.






Real philosophy is more grounded and tries not to make any leaps. For example if you look up some of the key philisophical concepts you will see how wildly different they are to this kind of gibberish. Read up on Existentialism, Nihilism, Idealism, General epistemology. These are far more grounded.



People's ideas of philosophy have sadly been skewered by ideas such as the OP's.





Putting this thread in Philosophy would just further give the impression that it is some kind of mystical business. This could be no further from the truth.



I am not discounting the ideas of the OP; I just think it is most certainly not philosophy; anyone who thinks it is needs to investigate philosophy more.

This thread must have transcended to another topic since I left.

Good point Carousoul... I won't doubt myself on my thread placement from now on.