Thread: God proven

I had a dream one night that i was playing wifleball with friends. All of a sudden someone said hes coming at 7 '54. I had no idea what they were talking about so i just followed them. We were standing at a cliff side and starring into the sky, when god and jesus showed up in the clouds. We all jut stood there starring.

I woke up from the dream, thought it was wierd and went on about my life. A few months later i went up to this gas station where my friend worked. He was really into the bible and jesus and he always had a bible on him.

To add this to the story i had just bought some pot...$30 worth. I really didnt want to buy it but i gave in and did.

So i was standing in the gas station talk with him and my other friend and i said lemme get a lotto ticket. I scratched it and bam won thirty dollars. I was like hell yea.

We got talking about god and i told them my dream, then i said let me see your bible, i am going to just open up the bible to the first 7'54 i find and read what it says. I randomly opened the book not really thinking i was going to find anything and the first 7'54 i came to was acts 7'54.

The verse really started at 7'53 or so but it said " and he grinded his teeth and looked into the sky to see jesus standing at te right hand of god....exactly as my dream was.

I had never read this verse before and EVEN if i had somewhere in my life read it which i know i hadnt i rndomly opened the bible to this page, it was th first one i came too.

About 2 years later i read the verse again and i read the title of the chapter and it was called something about the disbeliever.

I do not care if you do not believe me, this proves god to me or at least some higher power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory

korittke what is that about?
and i alsaid it could of just been a higher power

you think i imagained it? hahahaha

Dude, you said this stuff happened MONTHS apart and YEARS ago. No way I believe in the accuracy of your report. Talking about the dream.

umm DUDE whensomething so profound happens you dont forget it

god has shown himself many more times to me if you want more examples

Originally Posted by Bosco

umm DUDE whensomething so profound happens you dont forget it

Not true.

In a study conducted by Peter Lee and Norman Brown (2003) with the University of Alberta students shortly after the September 11th attacks, the students were asked to immediately record their memories and then, years later to recall the details.

Although flashbulb memoris tend to be strong, vivid, and detailed, studies suggest that they are neither as acucrate nor as special as you intend (Neisser & Harsch, 1992; Schmolck, Buffalo, & Squire, 2000; Talarico & Rubin 2003).

Like other memories, they become less detailed and complete with time and are often inaccurate (McCloskey 1992; Weaver, 1993).

Also, in a case study involving the OJ Simpson case by H. Schmolck, E. A. Buffalo, and L. R. Squire of the University of California, San Diego; students were asked a series of question regarding their experience of the giving of the verdict just 3 days after it was given and then many months after it was given. Recollections eventually became distorted and inaccurate as time progressed. After a 32 month period interval, over 40% of subjects' recollections contained major distortions and more than 30% contained minor distortions. Interestingly, 61% of the subjects who exhibited major memory distortions indicated that they had high confidence in their recollections.

Thus, you are wrong - you do eventually forget profound events.
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Have you considered that this could also easily have happened even if there were no God?

How come overly coincidental or seemingly miraculous events always have to be attributed to supernatural? Is it not possible for these things to happen without a God?

Either way, it is still a cool series of events, however it occurred.

Edit: I just noticed that this was in the "Religion" forum where it is assumed that other faithful will respond and no one will challenge you. In that case, please feel free to ignore this post.
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Originally Posted by Bosco

We got talking about god and i told them my dream, then i said let me see your bible, i am going to just open up the bible to the first 7'54 i find and read what it says. I randomly opened the book not really thinking i was going to find anything and the first 7'54 i came to was acts 7'54.

The verse really started at 7'53 or so but it said " and he grinded his teeth and looked into the sky to see jesus standing at te right hand of god....exactly as my dream was.

You made a very good case for God; however, since the verse started at 7:53 and not 7:54, you accidentally gave definitive proof that God does not exist.

Just thought I should point that out.

Just as a note, what Bosco described did come up in Acts 7:55 in my bible.

Furthermore, it sounded like Stephen was hallucinating.

Also, it sounds like you're taking this out of context to "prove" God. You could also say, "I dreamed about Sprite and when I woke up, there was a sprite bottle there. Thus, God exists. How else could that have happened?"

Or, even better, to make it fair:
"I dreamed that I won a million dollars, then, when I woke up, I turned on the television and 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire' came on and someone won the million dollars! Thus, there is a God/I am psychic."
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I'm sorry, but, you wrote to much. I'll respond to what I remember.

Ok, umm..... Jesus had long hair cause it was part of the Nazarene vow. Welp, that's why people believe he had long hair.

And, God sent His Son to die for our sins. Thus, "He gave His Only Begotten Son.." And, dying for our sins meaning paying for them....all the ones we have done and will do.

I'm not very good at this debating thing. I only came here to suggest something. I don't think I am educated enough in my belief to debate with other people who are probably far more educated in their own beliefs than I am in my own, so I will leave now. I'm probably just wasting your time.

Originally Posted by JCee

I'm sorry, but, you wrote to much. I'll respond to what I remember.

Before going anywhere, you are not a waste of time to anyone. Your thoughts and suggestions are just as good as anyone elses.

Ok, umm..... Jesus had long hair cause it was part of the Nazarene vow. Welp, that's why people believe he had long hair.

Right, he had long hair. The point of mine was just that if we are to take the bible that seriously, and accept all parts of the bible as truth, then we should also recognize that the bible says that Jesus should be ashamed of himself.

And, God sent His Son to die for our sins. Thus, "He gave His Only Begotten Son.." And, dying for our sins meaning paying for them....all the ones we have done and will do.

So, if God sent his son to die for our sins, how are our sings being "paid"? What's the difference between this and if you owed me $20 and I lent you $20 to pay me back? Because we sin 'against' God and need to 'pay' for our sins, but who or how are we 'paying'?

I'm not very good at this debating thing. I only came here to suggest something. I don't think I am educated enough in my belief to debate with other people who are probably far more educated in their own beliefs than I am in my own, so I will leave now. I'm probably just wasting your time.

As I said, you are not a waste of time by any means. I appreciate you including yourself in discussion and I hope you find yourself becoming a stronger individual because of it.
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Originally Posted by JCee

I'm sorry, but, you wrote to much. I'll respond to what I remember.

Ok, umm..... Jesus had long hair cause it was part of the Nazarene vow. Welp, that's why people believe he had long hair.

And, God sent His Son to die for our sins. Thus, "He gave His Only Begotten Son.." And, dying for our sins meaning paying for them....all the ones we have done and will do.

I'm not very good at this debating thing. I only came here to suggest something. I don't think I am educated enough in my belief to debate with other people who are probably far more educated in their own beliefs than I am in my own, so I will leave now. I'm probably just wasting your time.

pleasepleaseplease just tell me why you are so sure the bible is true

Originally Posted by Bosco

To add this to the story i had just bought some pot...$30 worth. I really didnt want to buy it but i gave in and did.

So i was standing in the gas station talk with him and my other friend and i said lemme get a lotto ticket. I scratched it and bam won thirty dollars. I was like hell yea.

Oh, I wish god wanted to get me high too. PASS THAT SHIAT JEBUS!