Thread: A question to christians about their heaven

If your heaven exists, then:

Do you not agree every living creature in the universe will one day come to rest there?

I mean, we basically have evidence that life in fact DOES exist on other planets, hell, we even found on that is a lot like earth, so why would it be far-fetched to say that there is life on it? And... If there are living creatures on it, don't you think they will go to your heaven? Or is your heaven a humans-only countryclub?

(Even more illogicalness around your religion, which happens to be human-based only. Such selfishness should shame you to hell if your deity in fact exists)

Here you've assumed Christians believe something in particular and used it to insult them before they've even responded to your question. Do you see why this is offensive?

Originally Posted by ninja pirate

Here you've assumed Christians believe something in particular and used it to insult them before they've even responded to your question. Do you see why this is offensive?

Have you ever read the bible? It is COMPLETELY centered on humans. Wtf? Why would some divine Deity care about our meger existence? Well, obviously because we made it up!

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Have you ever read the bible? It is COMPLETELY centered on humans. Wtf? Why would some divine Deity care about our meger existence? Well, obviously because we made it up!

Perhaps because the Bible was written by humans, on earth, where humans are the only forms of intelligent life. I'd be surprised to hear the apostle Paul talking about repentance of the martians.

And are you suggesting a divine deity could only care about the existence of massive, super-intelligent space-men?

Originally Posted by ninja pirate

Perhaps because the Bible was written by humans, on earth, where humans are the only forms of intelligent life. I'd be surprised to hear the apostle Paul talking about repentance of the martians.

And if we are linked to god, the creator, why would he not tell us of any other life-forms?

Originally Posted by ninja pirate

And are you suggesting a divine deity could only care about the existence of massive, super-intelligent space-men?

I never said that. I said the bible is completely based around the latest species of Homo, us, SAPIENS. Hell, according to the bible (which BTW is god's word) god spent a whole day on us.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Have you ever read the bible? It is COMPLETELY centered on humans. Wtf? Why would some divine Deity care about our meger existence? Well, obviously because we made it up!

I may be coming into this a little late, but you have it all wrong, and you don't know anything about Christianity. If you want to ask a real question than ask it. Also, you obviously have NOT read the bible.

True, the chapters where God goes to Mars and bosses around all of the giant ants are often glossed over.

Of course the Bible focuses on humans, dipshit.

Originally Posted by wannywan

Yours is so open, your brain's fallen out I'm afraid.

'stop trying to figure every little thing out. Just stop thinking and be aware of yourself.'

Bullshit. If people all thought like this, you wouldn't be posting on an internet forum, living in a climate controlled house, or indeed living much of a life at all.

Originally Posted by Neruo

Haha! Wow, that's a good one! Gotta write that down.

Besides that, this discussions is pretty silly. If all ninja pirate can say is "have an open mind" meaning "believe my bullshit monotheistic view", than there isn't really much conversation going to happen.

I have the feeling most of the time people that say "have an open mind" don't have open minds themselves. Just because someone claims to be spiritual, or claims to believe in some very-true magical power/god, doesn't mean that person has an open mind, even IF it were true.

I love the insults. I really do. Does it make you feel superior? I hope so. Goodbye, friends.

Yeah, the anger from u guys is so great u could fill a house with it.

I thought we came here to discuss our views. Apparantly all I see here are atheists who insult christians for our views. Something has to be said!

P.S not a good metaphor I know

Ps.s Please have tolerance on these R&S forums!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by ninja pirate

I love the insults. I really do. Does it make you feel superior? I hope so. Goodbye, friends.

I love it when people act in a way, as if they Like the insults, in an attempt to look cool or discredit the other person.

Goodbye, friends.

Where you going?

Leaving us again for a few months, to come back even more fanatical?

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

I mean, we basically have evidence that life in fact DOES exist on other planets, hell, we even found on that is a lot like earth, so why would it be far-fetched to say that there is life on it? And... If there are living creatures on it, don't you think they will go to your heaven? Or is your heaven a humans-only countryclub?

I do believe that there is life out there, just because the sheer amount of mass means that even random particle collisions should proudce DNA a million times over; but I can't tell what evidence you're talking about here..? There isn't any solid evidence of life similar to that on Earth as of yet...

Originally Posted by Xei

I do believe that there is life out there, just because the sheer amount of mass means that even random particle collisions should proudce DNA a million times over; but I can't tell what evidence you're talking about here..? There isn't any solid evidence of life similar to that on Earth as of yet...

Try these links: http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMDJ3NZCIE_index_0.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...icle_id=450467

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Try these links: http://www.esa.int/esaSC/SEMDJ3NZCIE_index_0.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...icle_id=450467

That's not proof of life... they just found planets upon which life might be found, if it were to be found, because it has a similar atmosphere and such to the only planet we know of which life inhabits.

Like I said, point still stands. I'm certainly not refuting other life in space, but so far the only proof is mathematical. We've yet to find any.

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

we basically have evidence that life in fact DOES exist on other planets

I won't for the moment reply to your stupid bait, but this comment?

Show me that evidence, Mr. Omniscient, cos I've not seen it. Is it just you who has this evidence?

As for "illogical", that sentence is!

My reply, as ever: Before making such a post, make sure your predicates make sense. If you're going to rely on axioms, make sure they are solid and true. Don't rely on speculation or flimsy assumptions. Dont refer to false or non-existant evidence (well, you haven't refered to any). Then I shall make a serious reply. I haven't yet seen any post on this forum that is worth my time.

Originally Posted by Neruo

Haha. This poll shows Christians are thoughtless people that can't even answer a simple question.

Go atheism.

All this thread shows is that Seismosaur can't present a coherent proposition without going off on tangents and just being tangled up in his own hopelessly pathetic arguments. Seismosaur, please try again. But think before the next thread/attack/random string of words.

Go atheism! Indeed. It will still go on strong, thankfully there are some atheists out there who can actually present an argument well. R&S is not the battleground though.

Don't get too upset... this is just a place for talking. It's not as if these debates have any importance at all.

But I agree that the 'basically having evidence' thing makes no sense.

We (humans) are special because God created us in his own image and also he made the entire Universe for us, he didn't make the Universe and then decide to make humans just for fun or something. Without humans, I don't think the Universe has a point. Nothing in it would be able to sense it (nothing is sentient except humans I believe.)

And I can't think of a single reason why God would want to create more creatures in other parts of the Universe than just us.

Originally Posted by Jeremysr

We (humans) are special because God created us in his own image and also he made the entire Universe for us, he didn't make the Universe and then decide to make humans just for fun or something. Without humans, I don't think the Universe has a point. Nothing in it would be able to sense it (nothing is sentient except humans I believe.)

And I can't think of a single reason why God would want to create more creatures in other parts of the Universe than just us.

What exactly makes humans so special so the universe doesn't make sense without us, what makes that much sense when humans are around. We are no more special than insects or anything else. Oh and what about the aliens that are also sentient somewhere out there, did god put them here for us, just like animals (which can also be sentient)?
You also have no proof that god made us in his own image or that a god exists, not even to yourself. All you have is a fairytale you have been brainwashed into thinking is "the truth".

oooo this seems to have turned into attacks at Christians and basically calling them stupid. No wonder they always say we are the mean ones.