 Originally Posted by Lucius
Just felt like saying, although perhaps a little late:
I'm not afraid for myself, or for everybody else because I trust in God's love.
God, or however you call him/her/it/them, or whatever he is, is -unconditionally- loving. Hes there for everybody, for we're all 'children' of God. Hes above being worshipped, and he does not want to imbue us with fear.
Hell is simply a state of being where you, yourself, fill yourself with hatred, anger and mistrust. You can throw yourself in there and get yourself out of it.
Eternal suffering sounds silly, as is eternal damnation. God is wisdom, he knows that we couldnt possibly know the absolute truth and that there is nothing to even -forgive- us for.
I'm not an atheist, but stuff like this makes me sad regardlessly. Religion and spirituality should be about love and trust. Always. It should always be something positive. There should be no judgement but our own. If one wishes to believe in something, as long as it doesnt involve hurting others, they have the right to do so without being judged. No religion is better than the other one. Its about making your life, and the life of others, happier and richer.
Thats all =P
I appreciate your sentiment, its just that all religions are hurting the people of the world...even besides the fact it keeps us from unification under like minded beneficial idea.
Well i'm afraid religion is hurting people (athiests too), all over the world.
An example of how athiesm is getting hurt, although it is by no means the extent of damage, is that athiest aren't allowed to hold public office in up to seven states (that among them Texas, the state I reside in)
If you are an athiest boy you can't be a member of the boy scouts...I actually was a boy scout, but I never talked about my religion, I eventualy stopped, because my parents didn't have time to take me to meetings anymore, besides, im disqualified from boy scouts anyway, reguardless of the fact i'm atheist.
Hell, we can't even TESTIFY in court in certain states...I suppose that is about the fact that the oath to the bible would be a pointless endeavor on the court systems part to keep us from lieing.
AND THE BIGGEST reason religion is hurting us is this little tid-bit from George Bush sr.
"no I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots, this is one nation under God."
Religious people piss me off when they make statements like that. What right do you have to judge me? I don't judge you...and i'm sure religious people would "say" they don't judge me, but that just isn't true, they've created a God who can "judge" me for them, so they can say when people are the way they don't like, instead of saying, fuckin "<insert word>" they can say, you'll stand before god on judgment day.
and before you say something like "you do too judge me", i'm going to stop you right there, judging a person is not the same as making an observation, I have never had the thought, belief, or notion that anyone should ever be denied rights, or harmed in anyway simple because of their beliefs, most religions on the otherhand would have me sent to hell for all eternity, reguardless of the fact that I only want whatever is best for mankind.
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