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      I wonder if many Christians know how the bible was created and at wich century! Do you know the roots of your religion?

      Also the Nag Hammadi scriptures shine an interesting light on the bible in my personal opinion.

      If you dont know then google it, that info is all around the net.

      I personally dont believe in a hell or heaven as the bible tells us...imagine your kids going to hell then and you go to heaven, is your heaven then still a heaven for you? Could it? Unless god would erase your memory that you have kids in hell.
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      Fuck it. It's all abuot ME!!!!!
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      If the Christian God is an all powerful and loving creator, then why did he create Satan? Hell just doesn't make any sense, you simply have to think about your dumb religion for half a second. Your God can't make mistakes, he isn't human. He's supposed to be perfect. By preaching about hell, you are effectively blaspheming your pure ideal of God, without exception.

      What you need to realise is that your religion, along with Islam is one of the only two evangelising religions in the world. Your religion is among a tiny minority which believes that it is necessary to convert others. This is the only reason Christianity is so widespread.

      Hell and heaven are clearly the epitomes of a stick and a carrot, the two purest tools one can use to motivate others... it's just so damn obvious.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      If the Christian God is an all powerful and loving creator, then why did he create Satan? Hell just doesn't make any sense, you simply have to think about your dumb religion for half a second. Your God can't make mistakes, he isn't human. He's supposed to be perfect. By preaching about hell, you are effectively blaspheming your pure ideal of God, without exception.
      You simply don't understand who God is to make this argument.

      God created the angels with the same free will He created humans. The angels, though, were created in His presence, knowing Him on a much higher level. Satan (Lucifer) was God's Number-One angel, the leader of the music in Heaven. For him to rebel, even when he knew God better than all other created beings, made him the primary embodiment of rebellion.

      The other aspect of this is that you don't understand how God created all of us with the will to choose Him or to choose to reject Him. His hope is that we would all embrace Him, but He knew all along that some would reject Him. Still, He loved enough to create those who wouldn't love Him back.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverZero View Post
      You simply don't understand who God is to make this argument.

      God created the angels with the same free will He created humans. The angels, though, were created in His presence, knowing Him on a much higher level. Satan (Lucifer) was God's Number-One angel, the leader of the music in Heaven. For him to rebel, even when he knew God better than all other created beings, made him the primary embodiment of rebellion.
      And you believe this?
      Still can't WILD........

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      Lol loves them enough to send them to Hell =)

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      The 'leader of music in heaven'..?

      Why am I strongly reminded at this point of Greek myths?

      Oh wait, I remember. -_-

      Anyway. If I'd had God's opportunity, I'd've created an infinite, beautiful, everlasting utopia. God seems like a bit of a dumbass to me to have opted for this alternative.
      Last edited by Xei; 08-14-2007 at 12:10 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverZero View Post
      You simply don't understand who God is to make this argument.

      God created the angels with the same free will He created humans. The angels, though, were created in His presence, knowing Him on a much higher level. Satan (Lucifer) was God's Number-One angel, the leader of the music in Heaven. For him to rebel, even when he knew God better than all other created beings, made him the primary embodiment of rebellion.

      The other aspect of this is that you don't understand how God created all of us with the will to choose Him or to choose to reject Him. His hope is that we would all embrace Him, but He knew all along that some would reject Him. Still, He loved enough to create those who wouldn't love Him back.
      What you don't understand is that you're misinterpreting the will of Allah as the will of the false god YHWH.

      Repent now.
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      Quote Originally Posted by wannywan View Post
      What you don't understand is that you're misinterpreting the will of Allah as the will of the false god YHWH.

      Repent now.
      Exactly. Praise Allah, the true god. We have the REAL magic book, it's better than Their magic book. Our guy-in-the-sky is so far more true, because it says so in the Qu'ran. It's perfect, scientific proof. Right.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Exactly. Praise Allah, the true god. We have the REAL magic book, it's better than Their magic book. Our guy-in-the-sky is so far more true, because it says so in the Qu'ran. It's perfect, scientific proof. Right.
      I've actually discovered the truth just there now, the true deity is...


      ZEUS!

      How could I have been blind for so long?
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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverZero View Post
      Still, He loved enough to create those who wouldn't love Him back.
      So he loved us enough to create us and then condemn us to eternal turture. Sorry but that makes god look like some mental patient. Surely non-existance is better then eternal turture. Unless I'm not "thinking from gods perspective" and seeing it completely wrong, maby eternal torture is just what I needed... (Even thought that's impossible, because I never existed)
      Last edited by Bonsay; 08-14-2007 at 12:29 PM.
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