Thread: A Divine Revelation Of Hell....

A Divine Revelation Of Hades....

Ladies and Gentlemen I am a true believer in the Olympus and the LORD Zeus.. But after reading a book yesterday in only a few hours my faith in Zeus grew 10 times than what it was...

I dont know if any of you have heard of the book called "The Odyssey" by Homer ?

It is about Ulysses himself and the first hand experience he had...In this true book Hercules meets Ulysses in Hades and shows him the Tartarus.


I know there is alot of people that doubt that exsistence of Zeus because they do not believe what he did is possible..You can take the Myths literally or you can take it in whatever way you want, but in the end It is about how much FAITH you have in the Olympus gods.. and I am telling all non believers to repent from your sins and ask Zeus for forgiveness and for him to come into your life...


In the book Stated above Hades states "In Hell you still have all your senses..You can smell, touch, taste,feel, and hear all" Imagine being torturned for an eternity and wanting so badly even the smallest drink of water, but not being able to have a sip...


I PRAY FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE YET TO FIND ZEUS AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO NEED HIM!!"


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I wanted to illustrate the argument of thegnome54 (which has received answers yet... I really await them.)
Say I'm a non-believer. You threaten me of eternal damnation for a non-crime because I don't believe in YOUR god. (I believe in the historical existence of Jesus, and I believe that what he taught was good. I doubt the divine origine.).
Just after that, a muslim threatens me of eternal damnation because I don't believe in Allah. Then an Hindu threatens me with Naraka, or a scientologist with whatever Xenuish thing, or a pastafarian threatens me of eternal suffering in boiling tomato sauce because I don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Because all thoses choices are incompatibles, I must choose carefully between FAITH in the christian god, FAITH in the hindus gods, FAITH in the FSM... but deciding rationnaly between different Faiths is an oxymoron.

Basically, you've made the Pascal's Wager. I invite you to read this wikipedia page to see critics to this argument.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

And how could you worship something that knowingly set up existence in such a way that most humans will be severely tortured for eternity? Something that does that is not worthy of worship.

Indeed. Took the words right out of my mouth.

Originally Posted by Lucid_boy

I never really thought about the bible as a book...

Wow....

Originally Posted by spiritofthewolf

Until you have felt the holy spirit inside you

Sounds oddly sexual.


I don't agree. I thought God loved the world. The whole WORLD, and yet, he damns those he supposedly "loves" to eternal suffering. Isn't he soo loving?

Originally Posted by SilverZero

Lee Strobel wrote two books: The Case for Christ and The Case for Faith. I haven't read either, but I hear they're very compelling.

No, they're really not. A good Christian friend of mine bought me The Case for Christ, and then bought me The Case For Faith later. The Case For Christ has some good arguments and information; honestly the most compelling thing was that the tomb was proven to be empty (naughty disciples moving bodies maybe??) but nothing we (non-Christians) haven't heard before. But The Case for Faith was terrible and had nothing compelling in it at all.

Originally Posted by Needcatscan

No, they're really not. A good Christian friend of mine bought me The Case for Christ, and then bought me The Case For Faith later. The Case For Christ has some good arguments and information; honestly the most compelling thing was that the tomb was proven to be empty (naughty disciples moving bodies maybe??) but nothing we (non-Christians) haven't heard before. But The Case for Faith was terrible and had nothing compelling in it at all.

The most compelling argument is either the banana or the peanut butter argument. If you know those arguments, you have everything you need.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FZFG5PKw5...elated&search=

The one with the banana is a spoof. It just proves that we are banana picking monkeys, perfectly evolved to handle the banana.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

The one with the banana is a spoof. It just proves that we are banana picking monkeys, perfectly evolved to handle the banana.

What I think is so hilarious about it is that it proves evolution. Bananas don't grow that way in the wild. They are the way in the market place because farmers bred them to be that way. Pure and simple evolution.

Oh, really? I've never picked a wild banana.

How does that prove evolution? I thought evo. was supposed to be all-natural.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Oh, really? I've never picked a wild banana.

How does that prove evolution? I thought evo. was supposed to be all-natural.

Humans and human ancestors made lots of decisions that caused the evolution of humans up to this point to go the way it did. The banana manipulation is like that, except the farmers have knowledge that they are evolving the bananas. I see humans as part of nature to the extent that our forcing of evolution is a process in nature. Even if it's forced evolution, it's still evolution. I'm not talking about genetic engineering. I'm just talking about breeding and selecting. Some people say that God was behind and in control of evolution. If I found out that is the case, I wouldn't see the need to find a new word for the process.

The blind evolution of animals works the same way, except there is not awareness of the evolution. Animals are selective about their mates, and the decisions that result from that selectivity result in the course of the evolution of the species. The animals are selecting and causing certain genes to be more prevalent than others in the gene pool.

Even humans are selective about their mates. I think its funny that people criticize humanity for being obsessed with the attractive women. "Attractive" women have traits that are best for child bearing (curves). It is seen with almost every other animal. Female malards fly with a group of males until all the males except 1 get tired and leave. The strongest male gets to mate.

In a sense of your theory of evolution we have almost completely evolved the dog. They are probably the most selectively bred animal on the planet, yet a chiwawa and a pitbull are the same species and can mate. Crazy stuff.

I wonder if many Christians know how the bible was created and at wich century! Do you know the roots of your religion?

Also the Nag Hammadi scriptures shine an interesting light on the bible in my personal opinion.

If you dont know then google it, that info is all around the net.

I personally dont believe in a hell or heaven as the bible tells us...imagine your kids going to hell then and you go to heaven, is your heaven then still a heaven for you? Could it? Unless god would erase your memory that you have kids in hell.

Fuck it. It's all abuot ME!!!!!

If the Christian God is an all powerful and loving creator, then why did he create Satan? Hell just doesn't make any sense, you simply have to think about your dumb religion for half a second. Your God can't make mistakes, he isn't human. He's supposed to be perfect. By preaching about hell, you are effectively blaspheming your pure ideal of God, without exception.

What you need to realise is that your religion, along with Islam is one of the only two evangelising religions in the world. Your religion is among a tiny minority which believes that it is necessary to convert others. This is the only reason Christianity is so widespread.

Hell and heaven are clearly the epitomes of a stick and a carrot, the two purest tools one can use to motivate others... it's just so damn obvious.

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Oh, really? I've never picked a wild banana.

How does that prove evolution? I thought evo. was supposed to be all-natural.

No way. It just has been natural. Actually, unnatural doens't even Exist if there weren't any humans. Pretty silly.

But anyhow. Getting some identical groups of mice, but in different environments to change in a way over the generations, so that they (they 2 groups) can no longer be called the same species, proves evolution, in a lab or outside of it.

Actually, (micro/medium)evolution has already been proven. How Christians can disprove macro-evolution, while it is part of exactly the same process just over more time, is just amazingly silly.

They can't disprove evolution. Maybe with their logic they can, but evolution is a fact.

You see, this is why I like you the best, you don't provoke any violence.
All heil the Tooth fairy, your new God!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xg9BVlm-3cc&watch_response

Lol also...You need a submissive ~Jesus~!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?watch_response=&v=U3aegrjPVWc

Originally Posted by Sandform

You see, this is why I like you the best, you don't provoke any violence.
All heil the Tooth fairy, your new God!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xg9BVlm-3cc&watch_response

Lol also...You need a submissive ~Jesus~!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?watch_response=&v=U3aegrjPVWc

Haha, those videos are hilarious!

Originally Posted by Xei

If the Christian God is an all powerful and loving creator, then why did he create Satan? Hell just doesn't make any sense, you simply have to think about your dumb religion for half a second. Your God can't make mistakes, he isn't human. He's supposed to be perfect. By preaching about hell, you are effectively blaspheming your pure ideal of God, without exception.

You simply don't understand who God is to make this argument.

God created the angels with the same free will He created humans. The angels, though, were created in His presence, knowing Him on a much higher level. Satan (Lucifer) was God's Number-One angel, the leader of the music in Heaven. For him to rebel, even when he knew God better than all other created beings, made him the primary embodiment of rebellion.

The other aspect of this is that you don't understand how God created all of us with the will to choose Him or to choose to reject Him. His hope is that we would all embrace Him, but He knew all along that some would reject Him. Still, He loved enough to create those who wouldn't love Him back.

Originally Posted by SilverZero

You simply don't understand who God is to make this argument.

God created the angels with the same free will He created humans. The angels, though, were created in His presence, knowing Him on a much higher level. Satan (Lucifer) was God's Number-One angel, the leader of the music in Heaven. For him to rebel, even when he knew God better than all other created beings, made him the primary embodiment of rebellion.

And you believe this?

Lol loves them enough to send them to Hell =)

Originally Posted by SilverZero

You simply don't understand who God is to make this argument.

God created the angels with the same free will He created humans. The angels, though, were created in His presence, knowing Him on a much higher level. Satan (Lucifer) was God's Number-One angel, the leader of the music in Heaven. For him to rebel, even when he knew God better than all other created beings, made him the primary embodiment of rebellion.

The other aspect of this is that you don't understand how God created all of us with the will to choose Him or to choose to reject Him. His hope is that we would all embrace Him, but He knew all along that some would reject Him. Still, He loved enough to create those who wouldn't love Him back.

What you don't understand is that you're misinterpreting the will of Allah as the will of the false god YHWH.

Repent now.

The 'leader of music in heaven'..?

Why am I strongly reminded at this point of Greek myths?

Oh wait, I remember. -_-

Anyway. If I'd had God's opportunity, I'd've created an infinite, beautiful, everlasting utopia. God seems like a bit of a dumbass to me to have opted for this alternative.

Originally Posted by Xei

The 'leader of music in heaven'..?

Why am I strongly reminded at this point of Greek myths?

Oh wait, I remember. -_-

Anyway. If I'd had God's opportunity, I'd've created an infinite, beautiful, everlasting utopia. God seems like a bit of a dumbass to me to have opted for this alternative.

Lol