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      The Messiah's Name

      Has anyone ever known that Jesus was never the first name of the Messiah? in the Old Testament, when God was once known as 'Yahweh', the Messiah was known as Yahoshua. What's funny is that J's did not exist 2,000 years ago, so how did this name originate?

      I would recommend that if you do not know much about celtic mythology that you should do some research on Wikipedia or somewhere else on the web. In the Celtic panethon there is a god known as Esus or Iesus. He was a paganistic deity of the old times. What's quite interesting is that his name means 'Lord' or 'Master' and not only does the name resemble such a great similarity between Jesus's name, but J's originated from the I's in the alphabet long ago.

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      Could you imagine if corrupt members of the church translated a false version of the Messiah's name to only have them worship something that is idol? Quite interesting, to say the least. If the rules of heaven and hell existed, the Satanists would be winning with the amount of people they have easily tricked.

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      Jesus is a name recorded by historians of a similar period as the Biblical Jesus, I think it is Josephus (Josephus? Antiquities of the Jews anyway) who mentions a teacher of the name stirring up crowds in Galilee and Northern Judea.
      My point is that there are records of a man named Jesus dying on the cross, whether he was a Messiah or not, so I don't think the early Christian Church needed to restyle some Celtic belief.

      What time period did the Celtic Iesus appear in, out interest?

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      The Messiah's name is George Foreman.



      He gave humanity salvation from greasy, fatty and impractical grilling mechanisms with his 'Lean, Mean fat-reducing, Grillin Machine'.


      I want to hear no more on the matter.






      [How stupid it is to argue over the name of a man from two thousand years ago. It isn't about his name; it's about his actions. Either way he was a wise man who believed in a ridiculous God; and sadly corrupted the world since. His name is inconsequential.


      If you need to proof that his name is fabricated from paganism to show you that his story is clearly fabricated itself I pity you.


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      I'll agree that the name or person doesn't really matter in terms of the ideals of Christianity. But I'll accept that there are some who believe thoroughly and utterly in everything the Bible states, so this is relevant to them.

      And obv I'll agree with George Foreman. Boxing's loss was grilling's gain.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      I want to hear no more on the matter.

      Why do you come here?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grod View Post
      Why do you come here?
      Why do you come here just to say that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      Why do you come here just to say that?
      Think about it.

      Now answer the question.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grod View Post
      Think about it.

      Now answer the question.
      Because I was saying "i want to hear no more on the matter" as a joke; in the same way as I don't really believe George Foreman is the messiah.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      Because I was saying "i want to hear no more on the matter" as a joke; in the same way as I don't really believe George Foreman is the messiah.
      I was joking.

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      Jesus is a name recorded by historians of a similar period as the Biblical Jesus, I think it is Josephus (Josephus? Antiquities of the Jews anyway) who mentions a teacher of the name stirring up crowds in Galilee and Northern Judea.
      But how could a name be recorded as such when J's did not exist way back when?

      How stupid it is to argue over the name of a man from two thousand years ago. It isn't about his name; it's about his actions. Either way he was a wise man who believed in a ridiculous God; and sadly corrupted the world since. His name is inconsequential.
      This has nothing to do with arguing, this has to simply do with the recognition of fact. It is to show, for one, that the Christians (who are highly against idolatry and other biblical nonsense) are actually praising a name that was never originally the Messiah's name in the first place. Thus, placing them as idol worshippers. It is about principles, overall.
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      The name Jesus is basically an evolved version of the name Yeshua, Jeshua, Joshua or Jehoshua. What you must understand is that there was no J in hebrew, but there is no Y either for that matter because it is a completely different alphabet. The spelling of the name is a phonetic translation from Hebrew to Greek to English and so it is understandable that there would be a few different interpretations along the way depending on accent and pronunciation. An example of a similar change of name from another language is Confucius, which is actually more acurately pronounced Kung-foo-tzu and is a phrase meaning "master Kong," his actual name being Kung Qiu.

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      *applauds*

      Nicely done.

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      Josephus, Jesus lived during the time of the Romans, people like Julius Ceaser.

      There is no letter that sounds like a "j" in hebrew.
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      I've always been under the impression that Jesus was a Greek version of the name Yahoshua, but either way "Jesus" has the same name as me, Joshua, so therefor I am the second coming...or the Anti-Christ, in an ironic twist!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Daeva View Post
      I've always been under the impression that Jesus was a Greek version of the name Yahoshua,
      In present day hebrew, he is called "yeshu"
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