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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod View Post
      This may seem alittle extremist of me but I wouldn't respect god if he were real.

      All christians know he created the world and changed it, they cannot deny that he has lost this ability because he is all powerful, god refuses to help dieing children each day, babys are born each day with disease's (horses are born with hay feaver), people starve all acrossed the world from lack of food, and I could murder all 6 billion humens and say I was sorry to god, and at the same time deny the holy spirit (which I have done) and never be forgivin.

      I refuse to except that women are any less superier then men, if god gave us free will why is womens place in the world decided for them?

      I refuse to bow down to a god who uses fear tactics such as hell, to get us to join christianity, it is mental abuse, as well as physical, they say we have a choice but the real thing is that god is saying hey you'd better believe in me, even though millions of people tell you that evolution is true, I still somehow expect you to beleive in creationism.

      There are many more, please feel free to add them to the list, don't be afraid of admiting your disrespect if you ask for forgivness you go straight to heaven, in less you have denied the holy spirit like me, in which case you can do whatever and it still won't matter

      EDIT: oh yeah theres the fact that he created people like me with the desire (because of the reasons above) to rebel against him
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      God never lost His ability. There is more good in the world than evil (more peace than war), but most people dont take note of this. Also, God is not responsible for evil, evil-doers are. Simply because God hasnt stopped this yet does not mean he never will (indeed He will, but He is biding His time so that many may come to repentance). Also, if you do not believe in a moral standard (being an atheist), your argument presupposes God. How do you know starving children is a bad situation? You have no moral code, so I really am under no obligation to respond to your objections. Men are not superior to women, women simply have a different function. I have stated this in another post. God does not try to scare you to repentance, Hell is a fulfillment of free will. It would be unsovereign of God to force you to spend eternity with Him (because you clearly hate Him), so He sends those who reject Him to a realm where He does not dwell (which is what Hell is). Also, much "evidence" for evolution is simply a matter of interpretation (such as DNA evidence, if our DNA is almost indistinguishable from that of a chimp, does that mean we evolved? Not necessarily, I could say the reason we have such similiar DNA is because we share a common creator). Simply because evolution shows itself to be a possibilty doesnt make it an actual occurance. You may say, "simply because Jesus could have existed doesnt mean he did". This is a different scenerio because we have eyewitness testimony of Christ (unlike evolution). God did not create you, your parents did (Traducianism).

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      Quote Originally Posted by bwick View Post
      God never lost His ability. There is more good in the world than evil (more peace than war), but most people dont take note of this. Also, God is not responsible for evil, evil-doers are. Simply because God hasnt stopped this yet does not mean he never will (indeed He will, but He is biding His time so that many may come to repentance). Also, if you do not believe in a moral standard (being an atheist), your argument presupposes God. How do you know starving children is a bad situation? You have no moral code, so I really am under no obligation to respond to your objections. Men are not superior to women, women simply have a different function. I have stated this in another post. God does not try to scare you to repentance, Hell is a fulfillment of free will. It would be unsovereign of God to force you to spend eternity with Him (because you clearly hate Him), so He sends those who reject Him to a realm where He does not dwell (which is what Hell is). Also, much "evidence" for evolution is simply a matter of interpretation (such as DNA evidence, if our DNA is almost indistinguishable from that of a chimp, does that mean we evolved? Not necessarily, I could say the reason we have such similiar DNA is because we share a common creator). Simply because evolution shows itself to be a possibilty doesnt make it an actual occurance. You may say, "simply because Jesus could have existed doesnt mean he did". This is a different scenerio because we have eyewitness testimony of Christ (unlike evolution). God did not create you, your parents did (Traducianism).
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      First god is outside of time, he can do a million things in one secound of he were there, you keep saying I don&#39;t have any moral standards but I have said many times that I do, and I don&#39;t need a god to tell me what to do, reather women have a diffrent function or not, it is not there choice mens function is to own the family and to live over everything, it&#39;s said many times we will burn in the lake of fire. (I do not hate him, do you hate everyone you disrespect, I would respect him if he were to take responsibility for this world) well if god did not create me why should I beleive he is my creater, because he is not, you are suggesting that humens got evil the further they went from gods creation (adam and eve) I recall someplace that he made adam and eve with out judgment of evil and good (morals) they learned them when they ate the fruit off of the tree, but god made the fruit of evil, he could have took it away, and only showed them good.



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      Quote Originally Posted by bwick View Post
      How do you know starving children is a bad situation? You have no moral code...[/b]
      I think that sentence speaks for itself regarding who has no moral code.



      Quote Originally Posted by bwick View Post
      hmmm...but which God are you talking about?
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      Yours.

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