God is not mocked!

**Awaken4e1** · 11-19-2005 10:22 PM

As many of you have observed in these forums, a rampant deluge of blasphemous, unclean assertions towards our God, without even a thought of their response to our Creator for their idle words, at the appointed time of their end in flesh. As it is stated many times throughout the Word man is judged by ‘his’ own words and he is ‘freed’ by those same words spoken throughout the course of his life.

Many of you I’m sure are scoffing these words as you read them, but I say to you now ‘Be Warned!’ God is not mocked, what so ever you sow with the tongue you shall reap with your life. But, far be it from me to revel that this is the same reason many of you have fallen away from God’s love, being convinced of your own words of evil.

Being convinced in your own minds of your own intellectual superiority, believing that if you don’t believe in something, makes it non-existent. When in fact knowing that one does not know all things, is wisdom indeed. So, in at that day when you stand before Him whom you have cursed, ‘you can not say that you did not know the consequences of you’re actions,’ because you have just read them.

Mat 12:36 `And I say to you, that every idle word that men may speak, they shall give for it a reckoning in a day of judgment;
Mat 12:37 for from thy words thou shalt be declared righteous, and from thy words thou shalt be declared unrighteous.'

The Rev.

**Universal Mind** · 11-19-2005 10:25 PM

You still have not explained how God's balls are not in your mouth.

**Awaken4e1** · 11-19-2005 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Universal Mind
You still have not explained how God's balls are not in your mouth.

Non-Sequitur!

**Gwendolyn** · 11-19-2005 11:24 PM

Prove to me, in a scientific manner (without quoting Bible verses) that God exists and perhaps I would heed your words. Just because you believe something, doesn't mean others have to. You won't go to hell (supposing there is a God) for what others say, so why do you even care? Don't worry, if I go to hell, because of something I said, then it's my concern.

Thanks for caring about my 'soul' though.

**Ynot** · 11-19-2005 11:37 PM

easy there, fella
blimey
someone really pissed in your font, this time
UM, you bad boy

but being the christian motif
I have no doubt you are tolerant of others
and as Gwen said - condemnation or a pass to heaven is a choice only you can make
no-one can make the choice for you

**Awaken4e1** · 11-19-2005 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Gwendolyn

Prove to me, in a scientific manner (without quoting Bible verses) that God exists and perhaps I would heed your words. Just because you believe something, doesn't mean others have to. You won't go to hell (supposing there is a God) for what others say, so why do you even care? Don't worry, if I go to hell, because of something I said, then it's my concern.

Thanks for caring about my 'soul' though.

[/b]

Prove to me, in a scientific manner (without quoting Bible verses) that God exists and perhaps I would heed your words. Just because you believe something, doesn't mean others have to. You won't go to hell (supposing there is a God) for what others say, so why do you even care? Don't worry; if I go to hell, because of something I said, then it's my concern. [/b]

Prove to me, in a scientific manner (without quoting Bible verses) that God does not exist, and perhaps I would heed your words.

Just because you believe something, doesn't mean others have to. [/b]

Just because ‘you’ believe something does not mean it does not exist.
God is weather you believe or not.

You won't go to hell (supposing there is a God) for what others say, so why do you even care? [/b]

I care because you’re soul is the most valuable thing in the entire super-verse.

Don't worry; if I go to hell, because of something I said, then it's my concern. [/b]

No its mine to because God tells me to tell all creation of His Loving Word…

**Barbizzle** · 11-20-2005 12:36 AM

There is no God. Just get over it man and take some biology classes.

**Lucius** · 11-20-2005 12:43 AM

I was just browsing about abit..just wanted to say something:

If God, concretely, does exist like christians say for example, I know he is all-loving and enlightned, he would have to be, as he's god. An all loving and enlightned god would not be hurt, not even touched by any curses or mockery thrown his way. Be loving like he is, and it's alright. A true god is above mockery and such

An enlightned god is (entirely) selfless, not selfish. Therefor he did not create earth for his own pleasure, or for him to be worshipped or even respected. He created it, so humans have a chance to experience something beautiful (Even though we mess up hehe), he did it for us. Not for himself. Ask yourself when you do something, think about the motivation. Do you do 'good deeds' because you want to aquire respect, fame, followers? OR because you want to actually do something for others?
Therefor I believe that God will not judge by whether or not you believe in him, or make jokes about him (fact I believe he doesnt judge at all but thats besides the point), God is not close minded, he looks at the bigger picture and what he is really trying to do. He wants to see people happy, smiling and in peace, and as long as you don't mess this planet up to badly, he'll welcome you with open arms

Thats what I think.

A truly loving god's priority is his/her children's happiness, not their own satisfaction.

Now I don't know if I totally went beyond this topic, but I never post down here but I just felt like saying this because I'm sure many people will agree with me. Nobody is going to be judged like that. God, is love.

And you are your own judge.

Just my humble opinion ^_~ Oh and by all means I do respect all people that do believe in the classic meaning of 'God' the father/creator..whatever makes people happy and comfortable. Religion can be beautiful

**Awaken4e1** · 11-20-2005 12:53 AM

Man is judged by his own words... as previously posted

**Gwendolyn** · 11-20-2005 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Lucius
I was just browsing about abit..just wanted to say something:

If God, concretely, does exist like christians say for example, I know he is all-loving and enlightned, he would have to be, as he's god. An all loving and enlightned god would not be hurt, not even touched by any curses or mockery thrown his way. Be loving like he is, and it's alright. A true god is above mockery and such

An enlightned god is (entirely) selfless, not selfish. Therefor he did not create earth for his own pleasure, or for him to be worshipped or even respected. He created it, so humans have a chance to experience something beautiful (Even though we mess up hehe), he did it for us. Not for himself. Ask yourself when you do something, think about the motivation. Do you do 'good deeds' because you want to aquire respect, fame, followers? OR because you want to actually do something for others?
Therefor I believe that God will not judge by whether or not you believe in him, or make jokes about him (fact I believe he doesnt judge at all but thats besides the point), God is not close minded, he looks at the bigger picture and what he is really trying to do. He wants to see people happy, smiling and in peace, and as long as you don't mess this planet up to badly, he'll welcome you with open arms Thats what I think.

A truly loving god's priority is his/her children's happiness, not their own satisfaction.

Now I don't know if I totally went beyond this topic, but I never post down here but I just felt like saying this because I'm sure many people will agree with me. Nobody is going to be judged like that. God, is love. And you are your own judge.

Just my humble opinion ^_~ Oh and by all means I do respect all people that do believe in the classic meaning of 'God' the father/creator..whatever makes people happy and comfortable. Religion can be beautiful

As most may well know, I am agnostic. However, if there is a God, I would think God would be like this. I personally think that God is more a force, like Karma, rather than a dude looking down on us from a cloud or something.

Oh, and Lucius, I love it when you share your beautiful words with us. You have much wisdom to share, and I hope you will never withold it.

**Nirvana Starseed** · 11-20-2005 01:40 AM

Awaken4e1
Mat 12:36 `And I say to you, that every idle word that men may speak, they shall give for it a reckoning in a day of judgment;
Mat 12:37 for from thy words thou shalt be declared righteous, and from thy words thou shalt be declared unrighteous.' [/b]

I think you are approaching it in a rather religious fashion. Which I gather has something to do with your background and experiences understanding etc.

In regards to your quote.
What you say is important. What you think is just as important. And most important is what you do. By all these things, and your life lived will be that which determines your level of righteousness or unrighteousness in the eye of the truth. To this extent will you have the glory or shame. Pain or Blis of that.

**Nirvana Starseed** · 11-20-2005 02:04 AM

Originally posted by Lucius

If God, concretely, does exist like christians say for example, I know he is all-loving and enlightned, he would have to be, as he's god. An all loving and enlightned god would not be hurt, not even touched by any curses or mockery thrown his way. Be loving like he is, and it's alright. A true god is above mockery and such

In other words \"god\" is righteous and powerful. Not weak and demonlike.

An enlightned god is (entirely) selfless, not selfish. Therefor he did not create earth for his own pleasure, or for him to be worshipped or even respected. He created it, so humans have a chance to experience something beautiful[/b]

This post by the way is one of the more sensible things posted at DV. However selfless ultimately we are. For we are all one. It's just the definition of self that determines the level of enlightenment. Pure Selfless Love is a quality of god. Which I assume is what you are speaking of.

(Even though we mess up hehe), he did it for us. Not for himself. Ask yourself when you do something, think about the motivation. Do you do 'good deeds' because you want to aquire respect, fame, followers? OR because you want to actually do something for others?[/b]

Once again it is this selfless quality gained and revealed in oneself that is the mark of enlightenment and godlike consiousness.

Therefor I believe that God will not judge by whether or not you believe in him, or make jokes about him (fact I believe he doesnt judge at all but thats besides the point), God is not close minded, he looks at the bigger picture and what he is really trying to do. He wants to see people happy, smiling and in peace, and as long as you don't mess this planet up to badly, he'll welcome you with open arms Thats what I think.[/b]

\"god\" welcomes with open arms. Because that is part of what god does, as a result of the enlightened consiousness. It is not a projection of the consiousness of humanity, so such a consiousness cannot be understood through it.

A truly loving god's priority is his/her children's happiness, not their own satisfaction.[/b]

Ones god like consiousness gains satisfaction through the happiness and completeness of others naturally.

Now I don't know if I totally went beyond this topic, but I never post down here but I just felt like saying this because I'm sure many people will agree with me. Nobody is going to be judged like that. God, is love. And you are your own judge.[/b]

Natural law of the truth is what is going to make you judge yourself.

Just my humble opinion ^_~ [/b]

Wrong context to be humble. You were are on the right track.

**kimpossible** · 11-20-2005 02:47 AM

Now here I specifically remember having mocked your god. In order not to get that, he must be as deluded as his followers. Deaf, Dumb, Blind and STOOOPID. That's a heck of a being you've associated yourself with!

Further proof that god doesn't exist: It's tough to believe an infinitely powerful being would need such a bunch of pathetic losers running around threatening people for him. You'd think he could get better help. I know *I* go out of my way to surround myself with winners.

**Raz** · 11-20-2005 03:53 AM

Originally posted by Awaken4e1
Man is judged by his own words... as previously posted

As is god...

And who are you to judge what god dose and dose not want? Did he tell you this?

From the book of Raz:
1.st and last # And man shall live and experiance and in the end we will be one...

Is my quote less holy then yours? Was the quote you wrote done by gods hand? Or by a human hand?

By gods hand through a human you say?

What makes that human so special?

You sure the people in this forum is not writing by the hand of god?

**spoon** · 11-20-2005 06:00 AM

Many of you I’m sure are scoffing these words as you read them, but I say to you now ‘Be Warned!’ God is not mocked, what so ever you sow with the tongue you shall reap with your life. But, far be it from me to revel that this is the same reason many of you have fallen away from God’s love, being convinced of your own words of evil. [/b]

Be warned awaken, Zeus does not take well to false prophets. Your unclean assertions on the "true nature of god" have all been mockeries of Zeus - the one and only truth. While your false god may have room for forgiveness know that Zeus has had enough of your words of evil, and he has no forgiveness in his heart. When you stand in judgement before his most holy power you will not say "I did not know", beacuse you have been warned.

The moral of the story? Just because you've read a holy book doesn't make your belief correct. Zeus is just as valid a belief as your god, and he's pissed off that you don't like him. And behind him theres Kali, Marduuk, Vishnu, Yahweh (the jewish version), Yahweh (the muslim version), ad infinitum. Kim's probably in there somewhere too.

Your faith is just as valid as any others.

**Rakkantekimusouka** · 11-20-2005 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Universal Mind
You still have not explained how God's balls are not in your mouth.

Frankly I think this thread could have ended right there, no idea why the replies continued...

Anyway, Rev-Rev, stop crying, "Non-Sequitur!" It doesn't matter now, this forum is a fully-sanctioned free-for-all.

As for my input at this point: Raz, I shall live by your commandment forever and ever.

**Universal Mind** · 11-20-2005 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Awaken4e1

Non-Sequitur!

Details! Saying, "Non sequitur," is the equivalent of saying, "You know, there is a good counter argument against that." What specifically is it? All counter arguments imply that the countered argument involves a conclusion that does not follow from the premise. So throwing that term at me with no details to back it up is a 100% ineffective debate strategy. You boast that my argument has a flaw in it. I challenge you to tell me specifically what it is, and I assert that you can't, unless you say that God is not omnipresent. That, I will agree with.

The moral of the story? Just because you've read a holy book doesn't make your belief correct. Zeus is just as valid a belief as your god, and he's pissed off that you don't like him. And behind him theres Kali, Marduuk, Vishnu, Yahweh (the jewish version), Yahweh (the muslim version), ad infinitum. Kim's probably in there somewhere too.

Wrong, infidel! There is only one Kim! Her infinite love will not be blasphemed by talk of other Gods, if you want to avoid eternal torture!

**Awaken4e1** · 11-21-2005 06:21 AM

If you had read my preceding post then you would know that this is a true and valid statement with no other explanation.

Zeus is just as valid a belief as your god, and he's pissed off that you don't like him.[/b]

True as that may be in your estimation, (Jesus is the Greek name of the Son of Zeus,) So in your understands I do believe in Him, and His Son...

The Rev.

**Ex Nine** · 11-21-2005 06:58 AM

Does anyone else remember those "____ Ate My Balls" sites in the early days of the web?

**Barbizzle** · 11-21-2005 12:10 PM

(Jesus is the Greek name of the Son of Zeus,)[/b]

what the hell are you talking about. Zeus never had a son named Jesus...

**Ynot** · 11-21-2005 12:19 PM

Zeus' son was Hercules, weren't it?

Half man - half god
to be honest, jesus by any other name
'cept jesus never had a big serrated bastard sword

**spoon** · 11-21-2005 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Awaken4e1
True as that may be in your estimation, (Jesus is the Greek name of the Son of Zeus,) So in your understands I do believe in Him, and His Son...

You just like making stuff up don't you. Jesus is a rendering of the greek name \"IHSOUS \". From etymonline.com

Originally posted by I
The moral of the story? Just because you've read a holy book doesn't make your belief correct. Zeus is just as valid a belief as your god, and he's pissed off that you don't like him. And behind him theres Kali, Marduuk, Vishnu, Yahweh (the jewish version), Yahweh (the muslim version), ad infinitum. Kim's probably in there somewhere too.

**Raz** · 11-21-2005 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka

As for my input at this point: Raz, I shall live by your commandment forever and ever.

Not my commandment. God wrote it through me so I cant take the credit.

Also God demands candy or we will all go to hell. Send me CANDY!

This is a new religion. Live your life with a good heart and give ME the high priest of the candy man, candy and you are asured heaven in the after life!

All true! (Expept for the lies)

**R.Carter** · 11-21-2005 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Awaken4e1

Being convinced in your own minds of your own intellectual superiority, believing that if you don’t believe in something, makes it non-existent. When in fact knowing that one does not know all things, is wisdom indeed.
The Rev.

I personally don't profess to know all things,Rev, so by your definition I am a wise
person. Thanks for that ! In regards to the first half of this quote ; that's a point of view
that applies to you as well, doesn't it ? If you believe yourself to be a man of wisdom,
by your own definition, wouldn't you have to admit that the atheist standpoint has the potential to be as accurate as your own ? Not saying that you have to believe in it
or renounce your faith . Just accept the possibility , as a man of wisdom. Also,
what's your story Rev ? Let us get a glimpse of your journey to enlightenment;
check out the "Post Your Path " thread.R.C.

**Awaken4e1** · 11-21-2005 03:36 PM

Originally posted by R.Carter

I personally don't profess to know all things,Rev, so by your definition I am a wise
person. Thanks for that ! In regards to the first half of this quote ; that's a point of view
that applies to you as well, doesn't it ? If you believe yourself to be a man of wisdom,
by your own definition, wouldn't you have to admit that the atheist standpoint has the potential to be as accurate as your own ? Not saying that you have to believe in it
or renounce your faith . Just accept the possibility , as a man of wisdom. Also,
what's your story Rev ? Let us get a glimpse of your journey to enlightenment;
check out the \"Post Your Path \" thread.R.C.

No one cares how much you know, until they know how much you care!

Good Post! I would be a 'fool' that some may know Christ

The Rev.