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      Quote Originally Posted by JoshMcNaught View Post
      we don't understand how the universe came to be, right? So therefore if somehing was created that means someone or somehing must of created it? God pehaps
      You're saying that since we don't understand how the universe came to be it must be God? Why would you assume that it would be God? What's wrong with a magical unicorn? Magical unicorns can create universes using fairy magic.
      Furthermore, why did you assume that it was created at all? That is begging the question.

      This is another classic logical fallacy. You don't know where the universe came from so you just simply pick something and go with it. This is the same as just making things up.
      I don't know who painted this picture. A picture must have been painted by someone. Therefore Bob painted it. Well, how do you know it was Bob? Maybe Tony painted it.
      I don't know who's car this. It must belong to someone. Therefore it must be Bob's car.

      The fact that the rest of us don't know where the universe came from doesn't automatically mean that you do.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      You're saying that since we don't understand how the universe came to be it must be God? Why would you assume that it would be God? What's wrong with a magical unicorn? Magical unicorns can create universes using fairy magic.
      Furthermore, why did you assume that it was created at all? That is begging the question.

      This is another classic logical fallacy. You don't know where the universe came from so you just simply pick something and go with it. This is the same as just making things up.
      I don't know who painted this picture. A picture must have been painted by someone. Therefore Bob painted it. Well, how do you know it was Bob? Maybe Tony painted it.
      I don't know who's car this. It must belong to someone. Therefore it must be Bob's car.

      The fact that the rest of us don't know where the universe came from doesn't automatically mean that you do.
      I didn't say I knew where the universe came from nor who or what created. As you quoted my post I was assuming it was GOD because that is what I believe.

      So are you saying that it's always been there? Please explain
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      Quote Originally Posted by JoshMcNaught View Post
      I didn't say I knew where the universe came from nor who or what created. As you quoted my post I was assuming it was GOD because that is what I believe.
      Right, but that doesn't address my question at all. You don't know where the universe came from, nor who or what created it, so you just pick something and assume that you're right? Why don't you assume that you are wrong, since we probably ALL are. What do you think the chances are that you GUESSED correctly, or that I GUESSED correctly?
      You assume it was GOD because that is what you believe because you assume it was GOD because that is what you believe because you assume it was GOD because that is what you believe because you assume it was GOD.
      Quote Originally Posted by JoshMcNaught View Post
      So are you saying that it's always been there? Please explain
      I didn't claim anything, but I will humor you, regardless.
      If you consider what we know regarding the true nature of reality in the 4th dimension then "always" is a nonsensical term. That's like saying "What is before banana?" or "What is after green?" The question of what came "before the universe" is only valid to those who do not understand, or do not accept 4th dimensional concepts, even when our science and the laws of space/time and gravity RELIES on them.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      Right, but that doesn't address my question at all. You don't know where the universe came from, nor who or what created it, so you just pick something and assume that you're right? Why don't you assume that you are wrong, since we probably ALL are. What do you think the chances are that you GUESSED correctly, or that I GUESSED correctly?
      You assume it was GOD because that is what you believe because you assume it was GOD because that is what you believe because you assume it was GOD because that is what you believe because you assume it was GOD.


      I didn't claim anything, but I will humor you, regardless.
      If you consider what we know regarding the true nature of reality in the 4th dimension then "always" is a nonsensical term. That's like saying "What is before banana?" or "What is after green?" The question of what came "before the universe" is only valid to those who do not understand, or do not accept 4th dimensional concepts, even when our science and the laws of space/time and gravity RELIES on them.
      What's the point in having faith in something and assuming I'm wrong? That just ruins the whole point of having faith. I have had quite a lot of spiritual experiences which has proven to me that god does in fact exist. I can't prove it to you its impossible, it's personal and whatever you believe or have experienced is personal to you also.
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