Thread: Only man is fit to be God.

Have you ever realized that maybe religions reflect what morals and laws men learn from instinct? Maybe men congregated and found the best laws with their intellect and reason and put them into a religion. Just imagine how stupid the average man is, then realize that half the population is stupider than him. How would you convince them to be good when no one is looking. Of course, religion has its flaws, nothing is perfect.

But here is something to ponder, do you know in any period of history where there was an atheist civilization? The thing is, a religion is a huge part of a societies culture, and without it they are forced to cling to something else. By going by their instincts they do a lot of things others might find immoral, like choosing to kill someone if no one saw, or stealing if your instincts told you that you could get away with it, especially if you happened to be someone with a below average IQ. So when you expect each person to use their intellect and reason, the average man has a horrid sense of reasoning skills. It is to have something like a religion so people can learn a good sense of morality and virtue.

Originally Posted by Shamanite

Have you ever realized that maybe religions reflect what morals and laws men learn from instinct? Maybe men congregated and found the best laws with their intellect and reason and put them into a religion. Just imagine how stupid the average man is, then realize that half the population is stupider than him. How would you convince them to be good when no one is looking. Of course, religion has its flaws, nothing is perfect.

But here is something to ponder, do you know in any period of history where there was an atheist civilization? The thing is, a religion is a huge part of a societies culture, and without it they are forced to cling to something else. By going by their instincts they do a lot of things others might find immoral, like choosing to kill someone if no one saw, or stealing if your instincts told you that you could get away with it, especially if you happened to be someone with a below average IQ. So when you expect each person to use their intellect and reason, the average man has a horrid sense of reasoning skills. It is to have something like a religion so people can learn a good sense of morality and virtue.

You are correct that it is the values of men that has been put into religions. Men of thousands of years ago whose wisdom has now been surpassed by modern men with higher levels of education and a lot of history to look back on.

As to religious nations being better than atheist ones. B.S. None have ever had a 1000 year long Inquisition.

Further, statistics show the reverse of what you are saying and atheists are showing better morals than the religious.

Please Google --- Atheists are immoral -- debunked

I cannot use links as yet.

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by Gnostic

As to religious nations being better than atheist ones. B.S. None have ever had a 1000 year long Inquisition.

Further, statistics show the reverse of what you are saying and atheists are showing better morals than the religious.

Please Google --- Atheists are immoral -- debunked

lol... what are you even talking about? I said name one atheist civilization in history

Originally Posted by Shamanite

lol... what are you even talking about? I said name one atheist civilization in history

And I gave.

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by Shamanite

Have you ever realized that maybe religions reflect what morals and laws men learn from instinct?

Interesting you mention that. You can almost watch as the ideology of the time evolved if you look at the old testament and the new testament. The old testament depicts a time in which the Hammurabi Code was law and man required such strict, barbaric rules because it was a very unruly, barbaric time. The new testament shows how the ideology shifted to one closer to what we see now in the western world (or at least what it preaches), and that is one more of love. Man learns to forgive others, and therefore himself. He has developed an emotional maturity and learned to control himself. He still shall not bear false witness, covet his neighbor, commit adutlery, etc., but rather than do so because he is promised a swift justice from either his peers or his God, it is because doing so is both wrong and if you really think about it, benefits him in the long run not to treat others poorly. If everyone can conduct themselves properly, follow the newer, simpler rules, and not mess it up, then the quality of everyone's lives is that much richer. It teaches us to both look at ourselves and our neighbors, to find the wrong in the things we do too (and change it), and to help those in need. It teaches us the golden rule. To me, the Bible is more like a round-about way of recording man's maturation as a civilized society as long as you can recognize it as that.