Thread: Any Atheists Here..?

Originally Posted by LouaiB

This concept is out of logic, and so out of mathematics. Whatever we, or math, might conclude about it, it won't be the true rule.

Aren't you using logic to get to this conclusion? I mean, which are the logic steps that you are following to get into this? or are you just using your intuition?

Originally Posted by Box77

Aren't you using logic to get to this conclusion? I mean, which are the logic steps that you are following to get into this? or are you just using your intuition?

Lol yeah I thought about that before, that I'm actually using logic for this.
Well, I think it's safe to say that this conclusion can be established using logic actually, because this conclusion is by considering evolution, and evolution can be viewed logically.

Well, I'm just trying to generaly explain this as a concept that MIGHT be at play. Even if some parts of this were to be shot down, I'm speaking as a general idea: Our logic is limited by how much evolution provides.

Edit: I just realized that my statement in my last post about math being like a stick to logic might be a false assumption, because math rule check through logic first. So you might be right Steph, what seems illogical to us but which is logical using math IS actually logical to us, but we see it as complex, and math simplifies it. Maybe, even if this still is the case, I would still like to continue proposing that logic is limited to what evolution has to give, also the idea about the start of the universe being the road itself instead of a concept, logic's backside, a knife that can't cut itself (I love this one! )

Originally Posted by LouaiB

Lol yeah I thought about that before, that I'm actually using logic for this.
Well, I think it's safe to say that this conclusion can be established using logic actually, because this conclusion is by considering evolution, and evolution can be viewed logically.

Well, I'm just trying to generaly explain this as a concept that MIGHT be at play. Even if some parts of this were to be shot down, I'm speaking as a general idea: Our logic is limited by how much evolution provides.

Finally I got your point, although I don't clearly digest it yet, perhaps I'm not that evolved . Anyway, I was thinking a bit in my position in front of a new hypothesis, and thought about what would it be, if I travel back in time and see people using their limited logic back in the days of Genghis Khan (Wasn't this guy another historical catastrophe? How would people think now, if these days somebody did the same he did?) to explain certain events that are completely logic these days thanks to the knowledge gained in the field of physics for example, but completely unknown those days. I guess perhaps it would be inconceivable to think about subatomic particles because they barely knew some fundamental concepts needed to understand that theory. Wouldn't they be saying that thinking about quantum physics could be something out of their logic? I think they would be right, because it's not their logic, it's the knowledge what limits its applications.