Thread: God is the null hypothesis

Originally Posted by melanieb

Notice the key words here: "My idea"

I have some ideas but believing in them won't make them exist.

That's a good idea for you to have, and just as well that you have that idea I think.

You pulled this IDEA from nothing...why don't you explain it to us?

Why don't you explain your entire existence that came from nothing.

My mind has infinite possibility to imagine things but that won't make them be true. You confuse probability and possibility with what actually occurs.

They don't come true because god does not will it to become true. If god agreed to accept whatever request you had. God would grant said request. But since you don't believe in god you have no chance of that happening. So you are correct. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

Again, nothing more than a possibility of a probability, not evidence to show it exists.

In probability theory 100% means it will happen. That's as much as certain as you can be. If something has full chance (infinite chance) of happening. It will, is, does, and can, has, and will to come. And there is nothing you can do about it.

I ask for evidence that is "evident" and "understandable" to all people. I ask for something observable that all people could agree and simply understand. A road-sign or picture of the flying spaghetti monster would be nice.

How about the Universe? That's observable if you open your eyes. How much more understandable can you get? It's up to you to understand something. I can't make you understand.

If you want a picture of a spaghetti monster. Here is one.

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See if you are specific enough, you can get it.

What evidence do you have, other than some words written long ago by several human beings?

The existence of the Universe instead of nothingness, is evidence of it.

A magical gold-plated chicken-nugget shat out by the infinitely-powerful being (or flying spaghetti monster) would be more than enough evidence for me.

In another parallel Universe it already happened though. If you want a gold nugget ask for one, but oh wait you can't ask for one from god because you don't believe in god to ask for it. I guess you are not going to get evidence, other than what I have told you and if you don't understand it you will never find god. You will refuse to believe and then be condemned. Don't think that god will sit around waiting for you to believe, he will simply condemn you. If on the day of your death the decision is condemnation, that judgement will be with you for eternity. So in all eternity god will ignore you forever. That's your preference? Once you are judged you cannot be unjudged again. This is in regards to your eternal soul. So think about it carefully.

Originally Posted by knight31

In another parallel Universe it already happened though. If you want a gold nugget ask for one, but oh wait you can't ask for one from god because you don't believe in god to ask for it. I guess you are not going to get evidence, other than what I have told you and if you don't understand it you will never find god. You will refuse to believe and then be condemned. Don't think that god will sit around waiting for you to believe, he will simply condemn you. If on the day of your death the decision is condemnation, that judgement will be with you for eternity. So in all eternity god will ignore you forever. That's your preference? Once you are judged you cannot be unjudged again. This is in regards to your eternal soul. So think about it carefully.

I never said I didn't believe in God...not once.

I think my concept of God differs from yours. Mine isn't so judgmental. In fact, your God reminds me of you.

Originally Posted by melanieb

I never said I didn't believe in God...not once.

I think my concept of God differs from yours. Mine isn't so judgmental. In fact, your God reminds me of you.

There is only one god to judge both of us. It doesn't matter what you or I think. It only matters what the holy spirit says through me.

Originally Posted by knight31

It only matters what the holy spirit says through me.

So you're a prophet now?

Seriously why do you keep making these threads? There has to be a better platform for trying to convert people.

Originally Posted by FriendlyFace

So you're a prophet now?

Seriously why do you keep making these threads? There has to be a better platform for trying to convert people.

I am not sure his goal is to convert anyone. I think his goal is to have conversations about this. DV community is very willing to have these conversations, notice that this is not one of those topics that remain unanswered or get just one reply.

Originally Posted by JoannaB

I think his goal is to have conversations about this.

I seriously doubt he came here to learn anything or change his opinions. I haven't seen him give any leeway so far, even about stuff that has been solidly disproven.

Originally Posted by Xei

I seriously doubt he came here to learn anything or change his opinions. I haven't seen him give any leeway so far, even about stuff that has been solidly disproven.

Oh, I agree that he does not want to be converted to different views, but I am not sure whether he is really trying to convert you.

Originally Posted by knight31

God is the alpha and omega, so god was there.

The flying spaghetti monster could only be as powerful as god decided. I don't have to disprove it exists. You are the one that has to explain how something came from nothing. Not me. It doesn't matter how many outrageous creatures you think of, My idea still trumps it all without a need to disprove your ideas.

In the face of nothingness, not even any principles could exist cause then that would be something.

Explain to me again how something evolves from nothing?

The amount of semantic maneuvering and intellectual dishonesty in this post is saddening. Do us all a favour and dispense of juvenile ideas about effective arguing having anything to do with how vehemently you believe in what you're saying or how insistently you assert your claims. Stop reiterating that it is true and making appeals to why we should believe you and instead explain to us why what you say is true.