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      Quote Originally Posted by knight31 View Post
      Afterlife is just another word for functioning without a physical body. The frequency of a wave determines it's state (position/nature) within the dimensional field (that contains all dimensions ect). The periodic table of elements consists not only of varying numbers of protons within the atom ect. The way they re structured, bonded, and move in space, determine their properties. If you could focus your attention to vibrate your body at a certain rate of motion through your conscious will, you could theoretically dissolve your material body into energy beyond the material into light waveforms. Just like the principle of breaking glass through sound waves produces a material effect. Yogis have claimed before to be this to their body. So the concept is not unheard of. It's also the main goal of the esoteric societies and dates back to egypt. It involves alchemy and the main principle is temperance. That is to change alter the current state of things into a particular desired form. From the material point of view that is transmutation of metals.
      To provide a counterargument which is as substantive as your argument:

      No.

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      Ah, I'm glad I stumbled across this, I was worried I wouldn't be able to meet my stupidity quota for the day.

      If you could focus your attention to vibrate your body at a certain rate of motion through your conscious will, you could theoretically dissolve your material body into energy beyond the material into light waveforms. Just like the principle of breaking glass through sound waves produces a material effect.
      Wow, lay off the crazy juice and educate yourself.

      Breaking glass though sound waves when you use sound (a physical phenomenon where vibrations are induced in a medium) which under the right circumstances will cause resonance (a physical phenomenon) causing energy buildup (physical phenomenon) large enough to shatter some of the bonds.

      It's exactly the same as if I took a hammer to it. It doesn't magically convert energy into "the material beyond light", whatever the hell that means. Even if you could spontaneously atomize yourself through the force of will somehow, you end up with a vaporized human being and thus a completely nonfunctional system.

      I don't know where you got this shit from, but go and learn some actual science.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Like most cult members, you are just spouting off a bunch of bizarre assertions and not providing even a shred of evidence. Do you have any to present?
      Evidence of what exactly are you looking for specifically that you don't agree with? Everything I am saying is theorized through a hypothesis of what can be known through the scientific axioms that are known through either the research or the body of knowledge that we have so far.

      What cult do you think I am a part of? If I am a cult member I would have to belong to a specific cult. Since you don't have any evidence I belong to a cult that is sounding more like slander.

      Photolysis, I am educating myself every day. If I am still on the forum when I finish my degree you will hear about it. And there is science to it already. Resonance is from frequency and amplitude of vibration and motion changing it's arrangement. The principle is the same when it comes to thought. And it wouldn't be vaporizing yourself, just tuning yourself to a different frequency. When you change radio stations, the station that you tune out of doesn't vaporize itself. Even though the radio stops playing that specific station, the signal itself still exists. There are devices which can measure thoughts through brainwave activity. Just as frequencies of sound projected can arrange sand in specific geometric patterns. So has thought demonstrated to arrange the crystalline structure in water through specific geometric structures depending on the nature of the thought or frequency of it, the memory of it gets encoded in the water. The same laws of nature ultimately allow encoding of information on a hard drive in a computer.

      In the same way information in DNA is encoded in your body at a specific arrangement, Scientist are already finding out ways of manipulating the DNA and interpreting it, which is set to uncover and overcome things to do with aging and diseases. Hypnosis and other altered states is a perfect example of how changing the way the mind is interpreting things can result in different perceptions and perspectives, and abilities. If you hypnotized someone to see through a person, they could have xray vision and tell what is behind their back. How would that be possible if a persons physical body was not merely a type of frequency of information existing that you could tune out of and through, to get other information within the field and connect to it, that you normally couldn't see with your eyes.

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      Quote Originally Posted by knight31 View Post
      Evidence of what exactly are you looking for specifically that you don't agree with? Everything I am saying is theorized through a hypothesis of what can be known through the scientific axioms that are known through either the research or the body of knowledge that we have so far.

      What cult do you think I am a part of? If I am a cult member I would have to belong to a specific cult. Since you don't have any evidence I belong to a cult that is sounding more like slander.
      I said you are like a cult member and pretty much called you one in the metaphoric sense. I don't have knowledge of your membership in a specific cult. My response was to a post where you made claims without backing them up with arguments. What evidence do you have that I will be conscious after death? What evidence do you have that I will start pretending I am still alive on Earth after I am dead if I don't "make a decision" to come out of my "delusion?" Can you back up anything you said?
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      I said you are like a cult member and pretty much called you one in the metaphoric sense. I don't have knowledge of your membership in a specific cult. My response was to a post where you made claims without backing them up with arguments. What evidence do you have that I will be conscious after death? What evidence do you have that I will start pretending I am still alive on Earth after I am dead if I don't "make a decision" to come out of my "delusion?" Can you back up anything you said?
      I don't have any evidence. As I was not feeling too good when I made those claims.

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      Britain's only Cardinal has just been accused of "inappropriate behaviour". ._.

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      hey why was my post deleted?

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      What does it mean to "deliver"?
      What do we mean when we say, "deliver"?

      I've had the past day to edit my post and, in turn, deliver what I promised. As a fundamentalist, however, I can't help but feel my failure to do so would provide a much more appropriate symbol with which to complement the intentions of the OP.

      Regardless, here I am.

      I have promised only "good things," yet what have I to show you?

      What is it you are expecting of me?
      Last edited by Parousia; 03-03-2013 at 04:59 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Parousia View Post
      This post is currently being formulated
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      Quote Originally Posted by Parousia View Post
      This post is currently being formulated. I'm rather stubborn about the timing of things, hence my viciously dire need to have this post dated as it is, but I promise only good things to come. Thank you for your patience.
      I wish I had some kind of award to present to you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
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      Hm, quite right.

      Quote Originally Posted by SnowyCat View Post
      I wish I had some kind of award to present to you.
      I return your sentiment, for what courage must we possess to hope to find attention in the unknown, and especially in gratitude for approaching me at all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper View Post
      The worst part about being an atheist is you don't get to say "I told you so".
      Wrong, i known an atheist that said this.

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