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      God Created the Stars in How Many Days?

      I have heard God created the stars on the "third" day. Science tells us that stars are still being born. What gives?

      Also, it seems as though Satan could be running the show rather than God. I can't believe God would create a world with people, especially people he loves, and then turn the show over to Satan. That doesn't make sense.

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      You're saying the Bible could be inaccurate?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You're saying the Bible could be inaccurate?
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      A literal approach, certainly.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You're saying the Bible could be inaccurate?
      I don't know if inaccurate is the term I would use. I would say it is somewhere between the 5 lb bag and the 10 lbs of fertilizer that was crammed into it.

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      A literal approach, certainly.
      Original Poster,

      Are you saying that the third day may not actually be over, or that the bible should not be taken literally, both, or neither?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Original Poster View Post
      A literal approach, certainly.
      Do you not feel the bible should be taken literally? Seriously--I'd like to know.

      It seems that in the short time this has been posted, I've stumped everyone. I'll let this simmer for a few days/weeks and see if anyone can explain this phenomenon.
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      It took god four days to make the earth and put the water on it and make living animals and stuff. Yet he created all the stars in one day? The key to understanding how the earth took 4 times longer to create than the entire universe comes from the last day when he rested.

      Clearly God is a pot user and is lazy and slow in making the world, he was taking his sweet old time in doing everything. Of course god ran out of pot mid week so he borrowed some cocaine and got some work done that day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      It took god four days to make the earth and put the water on it and make living animals and stuff. Yet he created all the stars in one day? The key to understanding how the earth took 4 times longer to create than the entire universe comes from the last day when he rested.

      Clearly God is a pot user and is lazy and slow in making the world, he was taking his sweet old time in doing everything. Of course god ran out of pot mid week so he borrowed some cocaine and got some work done that day.
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      I was joking around before but it is actually easy to understand. The people who wrote the bible believed the earth was the center of the universe and that the earth was vastly more complex and expansive than space was. Which is why creating all of space didn't even take a single day, creating the stars was actually a side note.

      So to answer your question, it is just a plot hole because the people writing the bible had no clue what they were talking about.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      I was joking around before but it is actually easy to understand. The people who wrote the bible believed the earth was the center of the universe and that the earth was vastly more complex and expansive than space was. Which is why creating all of space didn't even take a single day, creating the stars was actually a side note.

      So to answer your question, it is just a plot hole because the people writing the bible had no clue what they were talking about.
      Except qualitatively the Earth is far more complex than stars...

      This criticism really makes no sense.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Except qualitatively the Earth is far more complex than stars...

      This criticism really makes no sense.
      Earth is more complex than any star, but is is far less complex than the rest of the universe as a whole. There are no telling how many individual planets that are more complex than Earth. That is why the idea that God spent more time creating Earth than the rest of the universe is so WTF.
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      This probably wasn't meant seriously. But creation of stars at the beginning does nothing to show that there wouldn't be more formed in the future.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
      I have heard God created the stars on the "third" day. Science tells us that stars are still being born. What gives?

      Also, it seems as though Satan could be running the show rather than God. I can't believe God would create a world with people, especially people he loves, and then turn the show over to Satan. That doesn't make sense.

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      This is it guys, finally we've found the one core piece of the Bible that is inconsistent with what we observe in our world, and thus disproven Christianity as a whole. Let's all take a moment to thank The Sandman for his efforts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marvo View Post
      This is it guys, finally we've found the one core piece of the Bible that is inconsistent with what we observe in our world, and thus disproven Christianity as a whole. Let's all take a moment to thank The Sandman for his efforts.
      I didn't think it would be practical to enumerate each point in the bible that I find suspect in one post. Does that make sense?
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
      I didn't think it would be practical to enumerate each point in the bible that I find suspect in one post. Does that make sense?
      Nothing in the Bible makes sense. Discussing each minute sample of fairy tale is where it gets impractical.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      ...people who require evidence aren't moved by faith, and those who place great value in faith don't care about evidence....since we first stumbled upon that little bullshit detector called the scientific method)....you're not going to change anybody's beliefs...

      I say let them hear both sides of the issue and decide for themselves (isn't that what the Creationists are always wanting?)
      Very well said, but I don't think Creationists want to hear both sides of anything. I don't really want to hear both sides except to facilitate the presentation of whatever is the point of interest de jour.

      People who believe in God don't even know that faith requires them to not know for certain. You are right though. It is so pointless that I should let it go.

      Quote Originally Posted by Marvo View Post
      Nothing in the Bible makes sense. Discussing each minute sample of fairy tale is where it gets impractical.
      @Marvo, I concede it is impractical to have the argument, but I figure I could make one point that wakes up a thumper. For instance, if the bible is not to be taken literally, and you don't know Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, then you really don't know how to interpret the bible.

      Even that argument could be taken further, but it doesn't matter--does it? (.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
      Very well said, but I don't think Creationists want to hear both sides of anything.
      No, seriously - that's their motto when it comes to teaching creationism in the classroom - they say that it has equal weight with science and should be taught alongside evolution and geology etc as a valid alternative. "Teach both sides and let the kids decide for themselves" - as if the fireside stories of ignorant bronze age shepards in the middle east is somehow just as likely as the scientific discoveries. Look - you don't see scientists going into churches and petitioning to get evolution and the age of the earth as revealed by geology given equal time in the preachings - keep religion in churches and science taught in schools. That's all I'm sayin.

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      I understand why it would take longer to make the Earth. That's why I stayed away from that argument. Life could take a very long time. Of course, that would show that God is not omnipotent or else it could have all been thought of and accomplished with a thought.

      Here's the thing. Every time I make the mistake of giving religion a moment of my time, I think of how the religious dismiss things like the Sandyhook Elementary shooting as having nothing to do with God. That was somebody else, but when I bust my ass to create something, I should give thanks to God.

      Science sends people to space and creates the Hadron Collider. Religion passes the plate and tells people what they believe. Even Jesus' own desciples weren't convinced when they went out in some boat. His own mother didn't have faith. She has an immaculate conception (yea right), and doesn't have faith that they can have wine at the wedding. Besides, so what if there's no wine. Isn't water good enough? Woman, what am I to do with you?

      We have achieved temperatures colder than absolute 0. Very strange. Religion has spawned war after war. Again, as stated in my first post, Satan could be running this show. I don't need GOD to live in a world with people who hurt children.

      Why should I have faith?
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      That's probably true, it's just that Alric didn't say that, he said 'stars'.

      I appreciate the important point, which is that the Bible is clearly pictures a much smaller and anthropocentric universe than is really the case.

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      I said 'stars' because that is what the bible says and the bible doesn't know what stars are they just think they are little dots in the sky. There is no mention of anything else in space because they weren't even aware of the stuff existing.
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      The Bible states "in the begining God created the Heavens and Earth." The Heaven's consist of stars, so stars were created in the beginning not on the 3rd day. Stars were visible for the first time on the 3rd day from Earth but not created on day 3.

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      Why were they only visible on the third day?

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      Hold up, guys. I just dusted off my old bible, and this is what I found;

      "[On the fourth day] God made two great lights-- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

      Huh.

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