Thread: Omniscience or free will? -- Question for Christians

Originally Posted by Xei

Schoepenhauer: Man is free to do as he wills, but not to will as he wills.

Compatibilists: winning since 300BC.

This.

In regard to all elements of life, the universe and everything, nothing is more preferable than compatibility; it is the essence of attraction.

Now I'm not Christian but there is an interesting factor which renders me in agreement with the stance of most of the scripture.

God knew Adam would eat the fruit because that was Adams choice...however god does not create men with thier choices predetermined...it just means god is outside of time so it can see the choices oneself makes all in an instant. I feel this conundrum of questioning gods benevolence versus his omniscience is really a misunderstanding that god doesn't really create anything with specific intention. God does not have a choice that it itself exists. And all possibilities exist because god exists, now all possibilities existing does not mean that an infinite number of individuals have to experience all possibilities - simply because the possiblilites exist... I see this as the Akashic Record; sea of information/potential factor. All moments exist simultaneously as holographic imprints, and intention navigates and chooses those possibilities to become lived i.e. an infinite number of timeliness. However I do not feel not everyone in a timeline is infact experiencing those events as a first hand life experience...imo via esoteric experiences, some people experience alt-timelines as "dreams" in a detached state of awareness whereby all events occur and oneself responds how they would in real life but they don't actually feel any sensations of the experience because they are passively aware. Its like a program that operates on accord of the individuals who are experiencing the timeliness as their everyday life - they project the expectation of responses into the individuals that are merely "dream characters" ( so the dream characters have no choice in their actions - this is what I feel is the nature of dreams which are not abstract i.e. they do not have nonsensical events and one cannot tell they are dreaming).

Therefore god cannot be blamed for the choices one makes. On the other hand individuals can be responsible for negative choices of those who proceed them... i.e. a man may be forced to steal in order to feed himself and his family because rich people define unrealistic standards in the structure of society, therefore the rich condemn themselves at a spiritual level whilst they limit the choices of others who they would then have the gall to lock up for stealing. The man who I seen as guilty by the eyes of the rich is in truth innocent in spirit. Thus people cannot judge only spirit can – it will use justified persons in its processes tho.

Regarding the nature of Yahweh in the OT I would say that he is a fraction of the infinite oneness in its descended state of depletion after manifesting existence. In other words he was in amnesia of true oneness but had a innate desire and inbuilt understanding that being worshipped could enable him to ascend his frequency back to a level of completeness via the holy spirit (absolute oneness). This could not be accomplished unless Christ came and served as a mediator between the heavenly realm and the separated metaphysical/physical realm of Yahweh (as a creator God - portion of infinite potential manifest)

So Yahweh is the father, oneness is the holy spirit and Christ is the son. Christ is a portion of yahweh that was left behind in the creation process so that the holy-spirit could merge with him before he incarnate and then saturate Yahweh as he descended with the link back to oneness.

So effectively Yahweh was redeemed by Christ, and then once Yahweh was restored to awareness of oneness, Christ was then enabled to ascend back to the havens because Yahweh (and all beings within him) was not restricted to the finite boundaries of his own creation.

Now in light of the holy spirit explained (oneness) it can be contended that the “dream characters” of any particular timeline are operating on auto pilot via the Akashic Records (directed by the holy spirit) So the holy spirit animates the beings who are not truly there in their own spirit essence (because they only exist as individuals making conscious in timelines where they are making conscious decisions on their own accord,) Meaning the dream characters are like a hive consciousness of which simulate the circumstances for others who choose (on their own accord) a given stream of events as their time line of waking life. This I feel is one function of the holy spirit. The other is to redeem those who have been forced to make choices against their own accord so that they may ascend (upon death) into a higher potential time-line or the paradise existence of eternity (heaven) but thats another story all together and it is spoken of throughout all religions and ancient cultures.