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      23 Minutes in Hell

      I thought everyone might find this interesting.. no matter what your beliefs or lack thereof.

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      Nah, I probably wouldn't let you into my house.

      And yeah, I would probably construct a flaming torture pit and throw you into it for trying.

      Seems fair.
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      The only sure barrier to truth is to assume you already have it.
      I liked the part where he was ironic.


      The guy had a WILD and sleep paralysis
      - Are you an idiot?
      - No sir, I'm a dreamer.

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      47 minutes and 23 seconds of my life wasted.

      Those people are clearly insane. How grown adults can delude themselves with such things is a mystery to me.

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      but why bill, why?

      bible verses, bible verses, bible verses

      ... and then some more.

      He was a christian before his experience. Bias?

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      Does it get interesting later? I stopped watching after listening to the idiotic rhetoric at the beginning that was akin to Pascal's Wager (and that shit about letting people into one's house - would I let a stranger into my house? It depends... a friend of mine owns a nursing home, and so his business is letting people in... that sounds more analogous to heaven/god's house to me).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Replicon View Post
      Does it get interesting later? I stopped watching after listening to the idiotic rhetoric at the beginning that was akin to Pascal's Wager (and that shit about letting people into one's house - would I let a stranger into my house? It depends... a friend of mine owns a nursing home, and so his business is letting people in... that sounds more analogous to heaven/god's house to me).
      No. It doesn't get any more interesting. He just keeps quoting the Bible and using flawed logic.

      Though, he is quite good at painting a mental picture of pain and anguish, I'll give him that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper View Post
      He just keeps quoting the Bible and using flawed logic.
      This shall henceforth be known as flawgic!

      I'm over my facepsalm quota for the day, so I might watch it later.
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      Hell porn! Seriously, this is porn for fundies.

      Anyway, this is interesting. Obviously, this man had a SP episode and his analysis was slightly biased. But, I'm thinking that perhaps the original descriptions of hell were also based on SP hallucinations of the people who wrote/told the scriptures?

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      I stopped in like the five minute. In the first few minute I saw the following problems.

      1. Our government isn't mean for making prisons but they are mean for throwing people into prison over victimless crimes. Just like how god would be mean if he threw people into hell for victimless sins. Most of the sins are bad, but some of the stuff people bring up as sins really are not harmful to anyone.

      2. God does actually expect you to allow strangers into your house. If a person is outside freezing to death, you have a moral obligation to allow them to enter your house so they don't die. If a person is starving you have a moral obligation to allow them into your house and feed them. The same applies to god. Which is why I believe if there is a god, he will allow all good people into heaven, regardless of if they actually go to church or worship him or not. Because the process of being a good person, is also the process of accepting goodness into your heart. And accepting goodness is the same as accepting god.

      3. The world isn't fair. The world needs to balance out, and needs to be fair, isn't a valid argument for anything.

      4. His wife is like a puppet. That just annoys me slightly that she doesn't do anything but stand there quietly agreeing with him. Doesn't she have an opinion? I thought it was both their book. That just bugs me.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Replicon View Post
      This shall henceforth be known as flawgic!
      I like it!

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      Kudos to the guy that left at 4:30 haha.
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      oh shit, This guy >.< My mum takes every word he says as truth and nothing but the truth. Along with all those other people who have claimed they have gone to heaven and/or hell.
      They say dreaming is dead, no one does it anymore.
      It's not dead it's just that it's been forgotten, removed from our language.
      Nobody teaches it so nobody knows it exists.
      The dreamer is banished to obscurity.
      Well, I'm trying to change all that, and I hope you are too.
      By dreaming, every day.

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      So he repeats the ten commandments and the moral code we should live by a few times. He says that we are a.) sinners by nature and b.) even one lie will cast us into hell. He also repeatedly states that no man can or is meant to bear the punishment of hell, so the point of Jesus is to let him do the punishment for us. So as I understand, all that needs to be done is accepting Jesus to take the punishment for you.

      So two conclusions I can draw from this:
      Either everybody is going to hell.
      Or you are allowed to sin as much as you want, as long as you accept that Jesus will be judged for your sins, thus providing you with a "pass". right...

      This guy seriously seems like he is coming right out of a South Park episode. Especially after he gave his testimony and explains the 'ways of the lord', he repeatedly says, in this really whiny and wimpy voice "isn't god awesome that he does that? praise the lord, hehe, praise the lord." What a parody.

      So the presentation summarized in one carlin quote:

      "And the invisible man has a list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever til the end of time ..... but he loves you"

      Quote Originally Posted by AustralianFire View Post
      oh shit, This guy >.< My mum takes every word he says as truth and nothing but the truth. Along with all those other people who have claimed they have gone to heaven and/or hell.
      What about NDEs with testimonies of there being neither sin nor hell?



      But she does look an awful lot like satan.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dajo View Post
      What about NDEs with testimonies of there being neither sin nor hell?
      They were decieved and lied to! Satan is just covering up so they can spread misinformation! >.<
      They say dreaming is dead, no one does it anymore.
      It's not dead it's just that it's been forgotten, removed from our language.
      Nobody teaches it so nobody knows it exists.
      The dreamer is banished to obscurity.
      Well, I'm trying to change all that, and I hope you are too.
      By dreaming, every day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dajo View Post
      This guy seriously seems like he is coming right out of a South Park episode. Especially after he gave his testimony and explains the 'ways of the lord', he repeatedly says, in this really whiny and wimpy voice "isn't god awesome that he does that? praise the lord, hehe, praise the lord." What a parody.
      Haha, someone should call the South Park creators and ask them to put this guy in an episode.

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      I like how @ 10 min and some sec's the music kicks in, I knew right then and there it was time. for

      This guy and Charles Darwin had the exact same dream, it's pretty evident once he mentioned the reptilian-mammals that he saw..lol

      And it's get better, I love the part where he mentioned the millions of screaming people at this place. Wow thats a lot of Atheist.
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      I like how you have so much hate that you want to see people suffer for eternity, ahhh the christian teachings...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      I like how you have so much hate that you want to see people suffer for eternity, ahhh the christian teachings...
      I like how you actually watched the video and took it seriously. Ahhh the naiveté of the common Atheist :p

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      Why don't you? Very interested in the reason(s).

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      There's so much wrong with this I'm not quite sure where to start. Nevertheless, I did find it enjoyable and entertaining.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dajo View Post
      Why don't you? Very interested in the reason(s).
      Because most of what he's saying is not even remotely supported by scripture.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      Because most of what he's saying is not even remotely supported by scripture.
      That's what I thought throughout..

      I am very bad with any references to these scriptures, but I have read that there is remarkably little said about hell in the bible and almost nothing descriptive. Yet he blurts out specific lines at the end of every sentence.. so.. is he straight out lying there?

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      I believe he's a false prophet and his motivation is money. This concept was actually pretty inevitable, we've already had the New York Times best seller "90 minutes in Heaven" so it's only fitting to get "23 minutes in Hell". All about the Benjamin's.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      And it's get better, I love the part where he mentioned the millions of screaming people at this place. Wow thats a lot of Atheist.
      What a lovely person Christianity has made you.
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