Thread: Now a topic to really get the mind going...god.

Originally Posted by Unelias

I don't see any huge contradictions. If you accept that the way he has initiated conversation here is acceptable, polite and constructive, then I'll accept the sentence.
I joined this thread to point out personal flaws in his behavior that are hindrance to unravel the real topic. I dislike the behavior he is spreading in this forum and it is not limited to this thread. I simply had to comment, because in case he is troll, I hope he'll understand to stop.

If there was more to that comment, I apologize not seeing it since I am dead tired and going to sleep now.

Dude! You started by saying it should NOT be personal and include personal attacks and then proceeded with personal attacks including accusation of being a troll and some other stuff that I really don't want to go back and hear. Doesn't it seem a bit self-contradictory to you? Why give advice when you don't take it yourself?

The problem with this type of thinking is that you apply causality in a situation where causality simply doesn't apply. If time is a property of the universe, then the universe can't have been created since the very act of creation requires time to pass; state A of nonexistance has to change to state B of existence. If time isn't a property of the universe, then the same situation applies to whatever medium it exists in. The only solutions to this problem that I know of are that either time has always existed, or time is only an internal property of some sort of infinitely simultaneous existence. I'm leaning toward the infinitely simultaneous existence, in which all possible states of existence exist simultaneously. In that case, our existence and the existence of time itself is only one out of infinite states and doesn't require an act of "creation". Shit just exists.

This thread did not start from personal accusations. It started with polite answers from other members of this forum, all of which got basically spitted upon by the OP.
You did not answer my question : do you accept that the way he has initiated conversation here is acceptable, polite and constructive? What if we all started to write threads in this manner and "discuss" things like he does? To create a thread and dismiss contributions everyone is making?

From all that he has said on this forums there is a high chance he is just a troll. I suggest you to look yourself.

Why give advice when you don't take it yourself?

Do I have to quote myself?

I joined this thread to point out personal flaws in his behavior that are hindrance to unravel the real topic. I dislike the behavior he is spreading in this forum and it is not limited to this thread.

I see nothing wrong to point out that someone is being too rude, aggressive, counterproductive, provoking or acting arrogant. I trust you have also read the rules of this forum. Also, with the same post I did put my own input to the original issue. If you still find a reason to protect his behavior then so it shall be.

If there is anything else that is unclear with this, I'll answer tomorrow.

Dude. Once again. You came to this topic saying it is wrong to cast accusations, then cast accusations. "You are a troll" "You are rude" "You are agressive" "You are counterproductive" and on and on and on while saying people should not do and say the very things you are doing and saying.

Even in your own brain, you should start to see the light, that this is just not right to do?

I think you guys need to shut the fuck up and stop derailing the thread.

MindGames is right, this is my last post considering this matter. If you want to continue this, please PM me. But I don't think that will do much good if you don't see my point. You still haven't answered my question. I doubt you will. If a moderator has given him official warning then there isn't much to go by, if you try to defend his actions.

Waiting for OP to reply and see if this thread is going anywhere from the original topic.

Originally Posted by DreamVail

You do understand that I was saying that the logic that everything needs causes is fallible, and this means that logic itself is fallible, correctemundo?

Haha, well by the same approach, yes. Like causality, eventually logic cannot grasp certain truths and is hence fallible. It's paradoxical because conceptually this is logical at the same time, I believe.

Originally Posted by Unelias

MindGames is right, this is my last post considering this matter. If you want to continue this, please PM me. But I don't think that will do much good if you don't see my point. You still haven't answered my question. I doubt you will. If a moderator has given him official warning then there isn't much to go by, if you try to defend his actions.

Waiting for OP to reply and see if this thread is going anywhere from the original topic.

And mind games is right about what here? You came to this thread and said it should not be about personal accusations, then made personal accusations. Once again you are not walking your talk, copesh? (Understand?) I have defended 420 in no way here. I have simply stated that you said you do not like or appreciate his posting style, then proceeded to emulate it.

ok..asking wats my definition of god just proves that some cant read and understand. im being mean becuase dumb comments pisses me off. my def oviously..is a god that made ALL. a god that made the the other gods. i mean its so ovious what i was tryna săy..wow. and to make it more interesting, whats everyones meaning of god is? it would still raise the same question im asking and make you all look like no lifes who spend to much time on this forum, flaming someone when oviously some simple never understood whats being asked. and i stated that i cant accept the fact that everything came from nothing. its makes no sense nd its just plain stupid. its like saying which came first the chicken or the egg. oviously its the egg. the chicken didnt simple appear outta thin air. everyone else's turn.

Well usually I see it as a authoritary figure that was created in order to shed light in our miserable lives and justify things. But my definition of god is just a galactic being that is merely more powerful than any human. Not a divine being, not anything that begins with omni-. I don't see it as a creator or eternal. Most likely, if it existed, it disappeared or lost its power long ago. So basically it is not that different from human, except for the immense power cap.

Reason you received those messages is that your attitude gives a message that you do not want opinions or respect them. You do understand that "lololllol, hahahaha, fucking dumbasses, so much fucking stupid people in here haha go back to your dream reality." type comments make people not to make you seriously or even bother to continue this discussion.