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Originally Posted by Dwight Eisenhower
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Originally Posted by Dwight Eisenhower
''George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd.''
''"If god doesn't like the way I live, Let him tell me, not you."''
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Originally Posted by Ne-yo
H.L. Mencken
Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant.
"Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which We have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith."
- Pope Pius XII on papal infallibility.
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." Benjamin Franklin
"This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it." John Adams
“Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.” Thomas Jefferson
I got these from Larry Charles' Religulous (2008), starring Bill Maher. You should check it out if you haven't already.
Kingdo Of Heaven, awesome movie; gives an interesting, and thought-provoking, look at religion. To anyone here who's not seen it, I reccomend you do so.
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I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What god desires is here
[points to head]
and here
[points to heart]
and what you decide to do every day, you will be a good man - or not.
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When I was sixteen I won a great victory. I felt in that moment that I should live to be one hundred, now I know I shall not see thirty. You see, none of us chose our end really. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son. But remember that, even when those who move you be kings or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone. When you stand before God you cannot say "but I was told by others to do thus" or that "virtue was not convenient at the time." This will not suffice.
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Originally Posted by G.K. Chesterton
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Originally Posted by Mohandas Gandhi
"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."
Isn't there a difference between a religious quote and an anti-atheist quote? Wouldn't a person only make such a statement(an anti-atheist one) if they didn't truly understand the message of love thy neighbor?
I believe there is something out there watching over us. Unfortunately, it's the government.
Woody Allen
"An atheist is like a fish in the ocean saying that there’s no evidence that there’s an ocean."
"atheism is the epitome of the sin of ingratitude."
remember, you ARE allowed to post quotes that dont hate on religion/ atheism :laugh:
but i suppose those are hard to find
''Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned.''
buddhism quote :D
You seriously weren't expecting this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solarflare
oh of course i was expecting it! i'd be willing to create a thread if they have large debates. Small Debates are fine :3Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper
I started reading Mises' Human Action a few weeks ago. Note that this is an economics treatise. I saw this quoted on a forum and decided to look it up as it relates to the purpose of this thread.
Ludwig von Mises
II. The Limitations on Praxeological Concepts
The praxeological categories and concepts are devised for the comprehension of human action. They become self-contradictory and nonsensical if one tries to apply them in dealing with conditions different from those of human life. The naive anthropomorphism of primitive religions is unpalatable to the philosophic mind. However, the endeavors of philosophers to define neatly the attributes of an absolute being, free from all the limitations and frailties of human existence, by the use of praxeological concepts, are no less questionable.
Scholastic philosophers and theologians and likewise Theists and Deists of the Age of Reason conceived an absolute and perfect being, unchangeable, omnipotent, and omniscient, and yet planning and acting, aiming at ends and employing means for the attainment of these ends. But action can only be imputed to a discontented being, and repeated action only to a being who lacks the power to remove his uneasiness once and for all at one stroke. An acting being is discontented and therefore not almighty. If he were contented, he would not act, and if he were almighty, he would have long since radically removed his discontent. For an all-powerful being there is no pressure to choose between various states of uneasiness; he is not under the necessity of acquiescing in the lesser evil. Omnipotence would mean the power to achieve everything and to enjoy full satisfaction without being restrained by any limitations. But this is incompatible with the very concept of action. For an almighty being the categories of ends and means do not exist. He is above all human comprehension, concepts, and understanding. For the almighty being every "means" renders unlimited services, he can apply every "means" for the attainment of any ends, he can achieve every end without the employment of any means. It is beyond the faculties of the human mind to think the concept of almightiness consistently to its ultimate logical consequences. The paradoxes are insoluble. Has the almighty being the power to achieve something which is immune to his later interference? If he has this power, then there are limits to his might and he is no longer almighty; if he lacks this power, he is by virtue of this fact alone not almighty.
Are omnipotence and omniscience compatible? Omniscience presupposes that all future happenings are already unalterably determined. If there is omniscience, omnipotence is inconceivable. Impotence to change anything in the predetermined course of events would restrict the power of any agent.
The existence of God -vs- the evolution of thought: Redundant sex is still sex. - Me
"When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself."
WIN
"There is no god. Deal with it."
-Some guy I met on the street
"Two Hands doing work can do more then Two thousand clasped in prayer"
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~ Ne-Yo in the last couple of threads I had the willpower to participate in. :D
A person can't understand something that's been right in front of their face for their entire life, if they don't have a clue as to what they're looking at.
''And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence.''
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Originally Posted by Albert Einstein