Internal Dialogue - How To Communicate With The Mind

Hi there,

I participated in a yoga course in January 2007, an intense 4 week Teacher Training Course called Atma Yoga, the teacher was Atmananda Das from Los Angeles.

I learned Internal Dialogue there and talked with the mind for the first time in a conscious way, by applying this and using mantra's and meditation I discovered a whole new world inside, the mind.

For example, when we did this the first time, I had a genuine inner vision accompanied by thoughts that weren't mine, I asked the mind :

"My dear mind, do you want to become friends with me ?"

and saw the face of a Templar Knight cropping up and I heard :

"Are you sure ?"

That was far out and it was only the first time that I did this, in class.

I have so many other experiences that nowadays it has become pretty normal for me to seek the advice of the mind when I have to take decisions, or many other questions I have.

The key is to become friends with your mind first, many people have minds that are their greatest enemy.

Anyway, I made a short video in which I explain all of this, kinda step by step guide of how to do this and I want to share this with you and I like to know if there are dreamers out there who followed the instructions and came up with experiences, here is the link to the video :

YouTube - ‪Internal Dialogue - How To Communicate With The Mind‬‏

I must say that this type of inner communication is really far out, magick and the key to a mystic way of living you never knew before, it will help you as lonmg as you are friends with the mind !!

Forgive me for saying so....but you're kinda adorable.

edit: Ok, so I watched the video. I will definitely give it a try. I've been trying different methods to speak with my unconscious mind for awhile, some of them are very effective, and some of them aren't...so I will let you know how this works out for me. Just one question, when you are doing the upper lung quick breaths, your mouth is closed right? It's just in and out through the nose? I couldn't tell if you were breathing out of your mouth or not. Thanks for sharing. :)

Hi Pan,

and thank you for the compliment :shadewink:

When I do the quick upper lung breath (Bhastrika pranayama), I keep my mouth closed, I watched the video also last night and saw that my lips were moving, and indeed, it makes it hard to tell if I am breathing through the mouth or through the nose, so you keep your mouth closed and breath in and out through the nostrils.

I think the best sequence would be to do first the Ujjaya breath (breathing through the throat) for a short while and then a few minutes of Bhastrika (first make shure your nose is clean, so blow your nose before you do this, otherwise it becomes a mess), after this, when the mind is still, you can do Internal Dialogue.

After a while you might not need the breathing techniques anymore, like me, most of the time I just sit down (when I need quick advice), close my eyes, freeze my body and ask the questions I need to know the answers to, the mind replies.

Further, you might find out things coming from past lives too, like I was a Templar Knight in a past life and therefore the Templar asked me if I was sure if I wanted to become friends with the mind. It might be that I have to let go of the Templar to proceed further on the yogic path, although I still need the soldier spirit to go on, to fight restlessness, inner heatwaves, laziness and so on.

I hope this technique will be of any help for you and, yes, I like to hear from you what you got out of it, remember that EVERY thought or inner vision/images you might have, is the answer to your question(s).

Good luck and remember that it should be FUN !!!

They say you only wonder if you're sane if you are. So, for your benefit, erik: you are totally over the hill. You're gone. Sorry.

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When I do the quick upper lung breath (Bhastrika pranayama), I keep my mouth closed, I watched the video also last night and saw that my lips were moving, and indeed, it makes it hard to tell if I am breathing through the mouth or through the nose, so you keep your mouth closed and breath in and out through the nostrils.

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Thanks for clarifying that. Also, what was the name of the yogi that taught you? (so I can see it spelled out)

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Originally Posted by erik

Further, you might find out things coming from past lives too, like I was a Templar Knight in a past life and therefore the Templar asked me if I was sure if I wanted to become friends with the mind.

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So here's my biggest question for you...how do you decide what's real and what is created in the imagination? Or does that not matter to you? Why do you believe you were a Templar Knight, because your mind told you? or because you have memories of it? How do you know your mind isn't making it up?

I'm not trying to be critical, I'm just interested in your thought process, and if there is any sort of filtration system from what your mind tells you to what you incorporate into your belief system.

Pan, this is the guy that's regularly terrified by his paranoid hallucinations about hordes of ravenous Muslims ransacking the Western world, and thinks we should be building a huge army to protect ourselves. Quite literally, he thinks they're satan incarnate and they're going to destroy Earth. I don't think questions as to what is real regularly perturb him.

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Xei

They say you only wonder if you're sane if you are. So, for your benefit, erik: you are totally over the hill. You're gone. Sorry

Xei

Pan, this is the guy that's regularly terrified by his paranoid hallucinations about hordes of ravenous Muslims ransacking the Western world, and thinks we should be building a huge army to protect ourselves. Quite literally, he thinks they're satan incarnate and they're going to destroy Earth. I don't think questions as to what is real regularly perturb him.

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First of all, Xei, I really don't know what you are doing in this sub forum of religion and spirituality, as you clearly don't understand anything, no, anything of any spiritual discipline, I remember you as the one who defended Islamic terrorists and defended everything that has something to do with Muslims, I remember you as a guy (or girl) who
got pissed off if anything bad was said about Muslims, but that's all right with me, that's how and who you are and I cannot blame you for that. Just try to be proud of this, is my advice.

Furthermore, I never said that Muslims are going to destroy the Earth, I never said they are Satan incarnate, concerning this I only said that Islam could become the Anti - Christ in the way of how Christians are being more and more persecuted in Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Nigeria and I solely base this on my revelations of that Islam will come to power worldwide and according to Nostradamus will be persecuting Christians worldwide.

I never said that we should build a big army to protect ourselves, that is impossible because the Muslim takeover will happen, army or not, so these are not my words as it is not logical.

Please stay out of this thread and leave Muslims and Islam out of this, don't try to incite others and don't try to give me a bad name as you are trying to do here in a very obvious way, if you don't like me, then ignore me, don't attack me as you do, please get out of here, so I can concentrate solely on spiritual matters, as we are discussing here in this thread, don't hate, appreciate !!!

And I wanna ask you something........now as you read this, sit still, close your eyes after you read this and ask the mind :

"My dear mind, what do you think about Erik"

and then please come back to tell me what you saw or what you heard, and let it be the last time you show yourself in this thread, because you don't belong in this subforum.

Now, Pan......sorry, but I had to defend myself here.

The yogi who taught this to me is Atmananda Das, you can check his website here

www.yogamandir.com

I owe this all to him, so I am very grateful to him.

Then your second question about my past life, you asked me to tell you the difference between what is real and what is imagination.
If you can CHANGE the images you see inside then it is imagination or fantasy, then it is something you make up yourself.
If you CANNOT change what you see, then be sure that it is for real and a genuine message of the mind.
The real stuff is always very surprising as in you didn't expect what you saw.

This is the difference.

And now the Templar Knight stuff, here is the story of how it all began concerning this life :

This happened to me in 2002 :

I was in Rishikesh, India for the 3rd time ( I am a yoga teacher and learned yoga there in 1998) and used to meditate on Shiva from 3 o'clock in the morning untill around 5 or 5.30. I did more yoga and I was in a receptive state.
When one day somewhere in november or october 2002 before I woke up, I or I had a dream or I was taken out of my body by someone, I think the latter.
I was shown a peak inside the Akash chronicles (everything we think, feel, say or do is recorded in this subtle space, great yogi's can tab into this).
I was shown the following :

I saw a marketplace where everybody did their normal bussiness, it was a medieval marketplace, suddenly these people where under attack (I guess by muslims, I don't know for sure) and I witnessed a great slaughter among these people, blood etc....
The next scene was that I "floated" in the top of a wooden church, the woodcarvings were from extraordinary quality, I remembered to be in great joy seeing this. Then somany people fled or were driven into this church and the church, with the people inside where set on fire to burn to ashes.

Next scene and intuive knowledge where I was, I found myself in a prisoncamp in the desert.
This prisoncamp was divided into 2, one for the captivated Christians who were faithfull to Christ, didn't want to convert to islam and were about to die by the sword.
The other side was for the Christians who agreed to fight with the muslims, I don't know if they had to convert or not.
Anyway, I was one of them who chose to fight with the muslims......but I did this in order to escape !!

So I must have had a plan.

Then I saw myself exchanging notes with fellowprisoners from, I think, the other side, just to let them know I was not a lowlife traitor, but I did this to escape and I might have invited some of them to go with me ( I learned later, by reading books on the Templars that it was quite out of the ordinary for a Templar to read and write, so I must have been a high ranking Templar).

So I was getting trained (this side was a trainingscamp) to join the fight together with the muslims.
There was a muslim who had the task to guard me and my comrades ( I was not the only one who decided to join them). I had the strong impression that I had made friends with him.

The next thing I clearly saw, was that it was night and the muslimguard was suspicious, he looked through a round hole in his wooden door ( I saw this from the inside of his room) to oversee the prisoners (he might have had some kind of knowledge of us escaping, a Godfeeling) and then I saw myself blowing my breath over the palm of my righthand into his face, he got tired and retired to his bed to get some sleep ( so I must have possessed some magic powers, cause I might have been out of my body doing this, I don't know).

I opened up the door and took his shoes (sandals) with me, leaving the door open. I think I did this just to screw him one way or another, like proving my wickedness or sense of superiority towards him.
We had to hurry up ( I was not alone) and the next scene I still don't understand, that's why I think it must have been a dream, although I clearly felt that I was taken out of my body and when this all finished, I was gently brought back to my body.

So we were in a hurry and then we run to a cave complex, we had balloons of all kinds of colours, purple, red, orange in our hands and with this, we floated into the caves downwards untill we reached a cave where we got out ( I know, it sounds weird, I was not on drugs or so, again, I really don't understand this scene).

So we got out and entered a magical scene, a huge Cathedral was there to welcome us, we were so happy and relieved, I saw my men kneeling down before the Cathedral and then I saw that they wore white gowns with red crosses on the back ( I read in a book that I bought last year, that the Pope at that time ordered to sow a red cross on the back of the gowns, this was ordered in 1147, that's why I know this all happened after 1147).

I wrote this on a Templar forum on December 16th 2006, so I copied it from there.

Now, this was just a dream, and around the end of December 2008 I saw and heard many, many stories coming from past lives at night during a week, from December 26th 2008 until January 2nd 2009.

I was doing intense chanting at night at that time and got blessed by the Best with many stories about past lives and the Templar life was included, I saw and heard 3 more stories, one in which I was together with a black magic Bedoein girl in the desert, which I had a secret sexual relationship with and betrayed her in the end, I met that girl in this life in India, someone told me that she was a black magick Bedoein girl in a past life and I had a dream about her in that time. We would meditate at 7am, but I was lazy, stayed in bed and I got a dream about her, she was dressed in black, like a Bedoein girl but without veil, and she "floated" towards me, so to speak, just to remind me that we had to meditate, she was so beautiful, out of the ordinary !!
I didn't go out of bed and she didn't go out of bed either, we never meditated together :(


Second story was about my stay in the prison camp and my interactions with the Muslim guard, he indeed got falsely accused by his comrades and had to undergo severe punishment, public humiliation for weeks and his life would never be the same after this, I met him too in this life, he is a very talented Hindu Swami, a real yogi and a very sweet man.


Third story is my homecoming after my adventure in the Middle East.
I lived somewhere in France in a village, was married and had a little daughter, who I sexually abused, she killed herself to let me know what I did to her and I started to drink and beating up my wife, who's life I had totally destroyed.
I raped a girl in the forest shortly there after and got caught, they hanged me.

I met my wife from that life in this life too.

I have to say I have a lot of bad karma coming from that life, so strong that now I struggle with being falsely accused, but that story doesn't belong in this thread.

So the first indication of having been a Templar Knight was the dream, the second indication was the inner vision during internal dialogue and the other indications were the reactions of the people I met from that life in this life and the inner visions and thoughts belonging to those stories, they came as a surprise and many times I was not believing what I saw and heard, but then the story continued and told me how it was.

These were no fantasies, nor imagination, as I earlier wrote, fantasies and imaginations are things you can change in your mind with your will, and what I saw I couldn't change, it came to me as stories, long stories, expaining to me why certain things in my life had happened to me the way it happened.

So creating in me a sort of understanding of circumstances, and with this.......and that is important to say......some kind of forgiveness unto the things other people had done to me, cause I suddenly understood why they happened to me, it made me a better person.

erik, I don't have anything against anyone. You seriously seem to be suffering from paranoid schizophrenia though, and should really really consider seeing a medical professional.

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erik, I don't have anything against anyone.

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Liar.

I'm curious also which are you, guy or girl? Or better yet, which do you "prefer" to be labeled as? Inquiring minds wants to know.

Oh nice one Ne-Yo, how about you drum up some more fears of persecution in this guy? You fucking saint. Okay true, I do have something against people who show a lack of care, respect and honesty for their fellow humans. But I don't think erik would count himself among such people.

You actually have something against people who display a lack of care, respect and honesty for their fellow human??? Then you should equally have animosity for your own actions as well. Xei you really need to practice what you preach.

Give a single example or stop the bullshit.

The example is plastered throughout every post you've made in this thread. If you can't acknowledge the contradictions through your own posts, then it is you who needs to seek psychological help. Leave the man alone and at least let him have one thread without you intruding on it with your childish antics, grow up.

You fail completely to substantiate yourself and yet the bullshit unashamedly continues? Fuck me.

And telling a man with paranoid delusions that he should see a doctor is childish? And you're being the moral one by encouraging him? You're a warped, hideous excuse for a human, you really are.

First of all, you're not a doctor who are you to try to assert a professional analysis of anything? As far as hideous excuse for a human, you need to check the mirror.

Ne-yo and Xei you guys are a hoot as always. The video was....ridiculous but I dont think he is mentally ill.

You thought this

http://www.dreamviews.com/f37/forete...-night-116468/

was the mark of an individual in a state of full mental health, stormcrow?

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You thought this

http://www.dreamviews.com/f37/forete...-night-116468/

was the mark of an individual in a state of full mental health, stormcrow?

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Ya that thread was batshit. I thought we were talking about this video though.

I lead by example. Clearly my post in that thread stating "Ok, well...that's interesting" was the most appropriate. Sometimes it's best to smile, nod, and back away slowly.

Ne-yo,

thank you very much, that says it all, cheers :shadewink:

Let's talk about this video again, anyone tried it for him/herself ?

Hey,

I just uploaded another video on youtube of how to communicate with the mind, this deals more with the false ego, which is our greatest enemy inside, I forgot to say these kind of things in the first video as I recorded it in one take and spontaneously, here is the link :

YouTube - ‪Internal Dialogue - How To Communicate With The Mind part 2‬‏

the false ego is out for our destruction and as such it makes us do all the wrong decisions and actions we take in our life, it is a great hindrance to our goals, further I explain of what we are made of, which stuff, like the elements, subtle and gross elements, anyway, take a look and if you already saw my first video, I know for sure that this one is of great help.
I came up with an example about the legal marijuana sale in Holland as I was improvising and this came to mind.

Good luck !!

I decided to delete the video's from youtube, although it was fun to make them, but impulsive