Thread: How does a creationist resolve this discrepancy

If God created the world in a few days several thousand years ago...why is the earth littered with dinosaur fossils?

Did he deliberately provide humanity with solid evidence of the inaccuracy of the Bible in order to test our faith in some twisted way?

Did he create dinosaurs first, realize he messed up with the lizards, killed them all, and tried to cover up the mistake by fast forwarding in time 230 million years before creating man?

Did he put them there so that we could have oil to pollute the earth with and wage wars over?

Or perhaps it was simply job creation for paleontologists and other scientists?

If you're a Christian (or any sort of Creationist), I'd really like to hear what you believe.

"How does a creationist resolve this discrepancy?"

They can't.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

If God created the world in a few days several thousand years ago...why is the earth littered with dinosaur fossils?

The Bible doesn't actually state the Earth was created within any defined period. Genesis 1:1 tells us that "In the beginning God created the Heaven's and the Earth. It doesn't state whether that was billions, millions or thousands of years ago. The creation days are also mentioned with an undefined time frame. I've previously posted a good reference to the the first 4 creation days, found here.

As far as the Dinosaurs. We know that they did roam the Earth at a particular moment in time and they were created before humans as all other animals, some here, some extinct. However, we do not have any idea why God created them. He probably didn't feel it necessary to elaborate on them seeing as if they wouldn't be here once humans stepped on the scene. And before any Atheist start with "well, they were here with humans" I'm talking about advance cognitive thinking modern day humans. I'm not talking about animals like Neanderthals and other predecessor hominids, all of which you "believe" were humans with no evidence to support it.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

"How does a creationist resolve this discrepancy?"

They can't.

No wait, they can use huge heaps of bullshit and ambiguous interpretations of the bible to support their silly beliefs.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

The Bible doesn't actually state the Earth was created within any defined period. Genesis 1:1 tells us that "In the beginning God created the Heaven's and the Earth. It doesn't state whether that was billions, millions or thousands of years ago. The creation days are also mentioned with an undefined time frame. I've previously posted a good reference to the the first 4 creation days, found here.

As far as the Dinosaurs. We know that they did roam the Earth at a particular moment in time and they were created before humans as all other animals, some here, some extinct. However, we do not have any idea why God created them. He probably didn't feel it necessary to elaborate on them seeing as if they wouldn't be here once humans stepped on the scene. And before any Atheist start with "well, they were here with humans" I'm talking about advance cognitive thinking modern day humans. I'm not talking about animals like Neanderthals and other predecessor hominids, all of which you "believe" were humans with no evidence to support it.

Like this. Here is a prime example of said bullshit.

Originally Posted by Mario92

No wait, they can use huge heaps of bullshit and ambiguous interpretations of the bible to support their silly beliefs.

Like this. Here is a prime example of said bullshit.

As I said, they can't.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

As I said, they can't.

Then as you make the claim that we cannot resolve this. The burden of proof lies in your hands. Please explain to us why this cannot be resolved by creationist.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Then as you make the claim that we cannot resolve this. The burden of proof lies in your hands. Please explain to us why this cannot be resolved by creationist.

Because "God did it" isn't an answer.

So, you think we're all still in the 7th day of creation? The old earth Christians I can understand a bit more than the new earth Christians...though I was hoping to hear replies from the new earth Christians. But I got impatient and googled it and was really surprised at what I found...

Originally Posted by Aquanina

So, you think we're all still in the 7th day of creation? The old earth Christians I can understand a bit more than the new earth Christians...though I was hoping to hear replies from the new earth Christians. But I got impatient and googled it and was really surprised at what I found...

Yup, I believe we are currently in the 7th day. As for the Young Earth Creationists, I would also like to see how they would reply to not only the Dinosaurs but all of the bi-pedaled Primates that existed millions of years ago. It should be very interesting if someone does reply.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

all of the bi-pedaled Primates that existed millions of years ago.

You mean early humans.

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

And before any Atheist start with "well, they were here with humans" I'm talking about advance cognitive thinking modern day humans. I'm not talking about animals like Neanderthals and other predecessor hominids, all of which you "believe" were humans with no evidence to support it.

Point 1, dinosaurs existed over 60 millions years before the homo genus was present. Even the oldest primates came only when dinosaurs were gone.

Point 2, you insist on implying the theory of evolution is an "atheist thing", in spite of the fact that every scientist in the world accepts evolution regardless of their religion or lack of. And I know you probably are ready now to write a few names of so called scientists who reject evolution but - and this may come as shocker - when someone rejects the scientific method and it's collectively verified results, for no reason other than pure unadulterated bias, that person is not a scientist.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Point 1, dinosaurs existed over 60 millions years before the homo genus was present. Even the oldest primates came only when dinosaurs were gone.

and how do you know it was over 60 million years ago? were you, or any scientist there at that time? Don't say carbon dating because carbon dating is very unreliable with most things.

Originally Posted by erible

and how do you know it was over 60 million years ago? were you, or any scientist there at that time? Don't say carbon dating because carbon dating is very unreliable with most things.

Radiometric dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We've actually got quite a few radio isotopes that can be used in dating shit. And when they all point to the same date with very little margin of error, well...it isn't as unreliable as you make it out to be.
Also, carbon-14 has a half life 5730 years, which means it is worthless in trying to date something so old.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Radiometric dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We've actually got quite a few radio isotopes that can be used in dating shit. And when they all point to the same date with very little margin of error, well...it isn't as unreliable as you make it out to be.
Also, carbon-14 has a half life 5730 years, which means it is worthless in trying to date something so old.

I know, but scientists have carbon dated things, and got different results each time. That is what I meant by it being unreliable. It may work with little error to some things, and may get different results with others. And I just meant carbon dating in general, not the 60million years thing. I will read up on the Radiometric dating, I have only heard a bit about that.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Point 2, you insist on implying the theory of evolution is an "atheist thing", in spite of the fact that every scientist in the world accepts evolution regardless of their religion or lack of. And I know you probably are ready now to write a few names of so called scientists who reject evolution but - and this may come as shocker - when someone rejects the scientific method and it's collectively verified results, for no reason other than pure unadulterated bias, that person is not a scientist.

Now this, folks, is called bullshit. There are many people holding doctorates in Science who reject the theory of Evolution. Google is your friend -- look it up!

Originally Posted by Carera

Now this, folks, is called bullshit. There are many people holding doctorates in Science who reject the theory of Evolution. Google is your friend -- look it up!

I'm still not sure if you're just here to troll, but you seem to have missed the last part of what you quoted.

Originally Posted by Carera

Now this, folks, is called bullshit. There are many people holding doctorates in Science who reject the theory of Evolution. Google is your friend -- look it up!

I did google. 128 biologists signed something saying they had doubts in evolution. I also found out from Time, that not one of them have done research into evolution. Biology is a very wide field.

Anyone who rejects the scientific method, is by definition, not a scientist.

Google for doctors who say smoking doesn't cause cancer, you actually get significantly more results that googling for biologists who say evolution isn't real.

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evolution

Just a reminder to follow the forum rules...insults and disrespecting other members will land you infractions.

Apologists will very often say they were put here to test people's faith. This argum... er... fallacy... is really great because it's timeless. No matter what is discovered, falling back on a "brain in jar" type argument will always work.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

If God created the world in a few days several thousand years ago...why is the earth littered with dinosaur fossils?

how do you know it took only several days? what if the concept of time was different.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Just a reminder to follow the forum rules...insults and disrespecting other members will land you infractions.

if that's the case, then that should be told in half the other threads here hahaha

So apparently the young earth christians believe that the dinosaurs were created along with all the other creatures including man on the 6th day. They believe that dinosaurs are specifically referenced in the bible as "dragons", and that there is lots of evidence for dinosaurs coexisting with man. Their evidence is mostly ancient art that depicts man and dinosaurs together, or man and dinosaur footprints side by side, etc. The evidence is all highly suspect. But what is more...they believe that many of these dinosaurs are still living today all over the world and have either not been discovered by scientists or their existence is being covered up. For example, they claim that the lake monsters like Nessie and Champ are plesiosaurs. And that many other dinosaurs have been described and identified by various indigenous cultures all over the world (see: Genesis Park)

Evidence that Humans and Dinosaurs lived at the same time

Art and Artifacts: Evidence that Humans and Dinosaurs lived at the same time:* Artifacts and Art work

I think the Creation Museum has a dinosaur with a saddle on it (implying that humans would ride dinosaurs) as well as an exhibit showing humans and velociraptors coexisting.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

I think the Creation Museum has a dinosaur with a saddle on it (implying that humans would ride dinosaurs) as well as an exhibit showing humans and velociraptors coexisting.

And we've just discovered why math was invented.

You are in effect asking how do those who cannot reason -- reason. But I think, before one casts that stone, they should themselves know the foundation of reason, and simply attempt to teach that. One does not create a mason by dropping a load of bricks on them, but by teaching them how to stack and morter them.

It was written that the poor shall always be with us--the poverty spoken of was not in material wealth, but in mind.

Scrpture was written in metaphor--not because it was stupid to do so, but for very specific reasons. The mastery of metaphor should be a prerequisite for anyone attempting to comprehend psychology.