Thread: To All The Atheists (all 20000000000000 of you) :P

Personally I am a Christian, not one of those homophobic Christians, I just believe in God and Jesus but I don't believe in hell, I'm kind of a non-denominational Christian who accepts that a large chunk of the bible is extremely corrupt. But I understand atheism, but I kind of like to argue with my atheist friend, my philosophy is that everybody is allowed their beliefs and I have mine, but I have the right to argue those beliefs(in a fair debate of course) so to you atheists keep on doing what you do.

Originally Posted by Rev0896

I'm kind of a non-denominational Christian who accepts that a large chunk of the bible is extremely corrupt.

Then where do you get the facts regarding your religion?

Originally Posted by MindGames

Acid actually made a legitimate point that atheists are not part of an organized group, unlike religious organizations. Therefore, the correct usage of the word 'atheist' is important.

Most people on the internet can barely use one language, lets try to look past semantics and the misuse of words and concentrate on the important points.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Most people on the internet can barely use one language, lets try to look past semantics and the misuse of words and concentrate on the important points.

This isn't really an important thread. Anyway, I can make a simple observation if I choose to, thanks.

Then where do you get the facts regarding your religion?

+1
Im fascinated as to how people with a faith deriving almost entirely from a single source, such as the Bible, can simply drop parts and then continue to argue their faith as being 'the answer'. If even Christians themselves choose to ignore parts of the Bible and label them as 'corrupt' how do you expect anyone else to take the book seriously?

And how do you know which parts are corrupt or not? May as well all be corrupt.

The fact that somebody can read the bible as a holy book and know which parts to ignore so as to behave ethically is one of the strongest arguments I can think of that the whole notion of a holy book is ridiculous and that we have an inbuilt "moral compass" that guides our behavior.

This "god" character has nothing to do with it.

Never believed in any god or religion. I never got why people believed it. I thought they were all morons. In a non harsh way. From as early as I can remember, I really just wondered why people believed in it. Not all the time but just passively. Like if a teacher was talking about god and heaven and all that stuff I just could not comprehend how someone thought it made sense. But I just dismissed the thought, and I still do today. I'm only replying to this thread because I'm bored.
Some people have that urge, some don't I guess.

The fact is I go off of the following things i hold true. 1. I believe in a God who created human kind. 2. When someone with infinite power creates something he doesn't have to put up with it if he doesn't love it. 3. If you love something you would never send it to suffer for eternity. 4. Being almighty, God did not have to give us "flaws" so why would he punish us for them or tell us to change them. Also when you love someone you love them despite there flaws. So I only believe parts of the bible that correspond with love. Also I a a strict pacifist, because of my belief. Now I am not saying my religion is perfect, because nobody can get it exactly right, so I simply stick with this and because I know I could be way off, i never force religion on someone. And I don't choose to believe, because let me tell you I have been let down by God, I just have a feeling inside me that there has to be something, so if I am wrong oh well.

Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia

Someone missed the message. I was saying that words can have two meanings. In this case, a group is not a group. You and him are thinking of two different types of groups.

In reality you said we're a group but not a group, which makes no sense. So I largely disregarded your statement.

Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia

Also, I don't know who David Hume is,

Let me take the first step for you.
http://www.google.com

I was born athiest, just like every other human being.

Never have been atheist but I don't believe in any one religion.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

Let me take the first step for you.
Google

What I meant by that was, "I don't know who David Hume is, and I don't really care, but I don't think he's a very good representative." But it sounds better without the I don't care part.

Alright guys, lets put this semantic argument to rest. Its getting old and I'm getting sick of every thread that mentions the word athiest devolving into an argument about the meanings of words. If you are incapable of infering what someone means when they say atheist from the context of their whole post then you probably lack the intelligence to have a reasonable discussion and probably shouldn't say anything at all. Atheists are a group when the word group is taken as a synonymn of demographic.


Well I was raised Christian but I don't think I ever considered myself one. I honestly can't even remember a time when I believed in Santa Claus/toothfairy/etc. even though those things were as much a part of my upbringing as the average American. I decided that I was an atheist in high school, although unlike PS, I defined atheism as a positive statement - I believed that all religions are wrong. As I got older though I stopped identifying myself as an atheist, first saying that I was agnostic and later other things (there really is no term that applies perfectly to my religious beliefs). I still believe that all religions are wrong but I have since realized that all world views, beliefs, creeds, and philosophies are wrong but that they are all right as well and that the truth is that right and wrong are pretty much irrelevant when it comes to this question.

I still don't get how they aren't a defined group. And I'm not going to convince anyone and as Xaq said, this is getting old.

All posts only discussing the meaning of atheist, when to capitalize a word, or anything else that is not related to the topic of "when did you become an atheist" will be deleted from here on out.

thank you.... that argument was stupid anyways..... >.> lol

anyways, it seems to be all at an early age like 6-9 or teens like 15-18

lol

I still know I'm right; look it up in any dictionary.

And yeah, ahem I agree that most people become atheists in their younger teens etc.

i wasnt raised into a religion, though i knew of them. my brother and i never went to church or touched a bible, and we only knew the basics about God, Jesus, heaven and hell and stuff, and eventually i just called myself a christian without being one, just as when someone asked what my favorite team was, and i would reply red sox when in reality i hated baseball. i called myself athiest around the time someone asked me what my favorite team was and i just said screw baseball. my brother on the other hand is mentally challenged just really stupid, on ash wednesday he saw someone with a cross on their head, and when he asked what it was they said it was a symbol of the catholic faith. he replied,"oh! thats my religion!" to which they said why the hell do you not know what the cross on my head means then. he should get this by 13, so i told him he didnt have to say he was catholic because our grandparents had him baptised. he understood and said he was athiest. a week later i asked him what religion he was and he said catholic.... fucking stupid....

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

Alright guys, lets put this semantic argument to rest. Its getting old and I'm getting sick of every thread that mentions the word athiest devolving into an argument about the meanings of words. If you are incapable of infering what someone means when they say atheist from the context of their whole post then you probably lack the intelligence to have a reasonable discussion and probably shouldn't say anything at all. Atheists are a group when the word group is taken as a synonymn of demographic.


Well I was raised Christian but I don't think I ever considered myself one. I honestly can't even remember a time when I believed in Santa Claus/toothfairy/etc. even though those things were as much a part of my upbringing as the average American. I decided that I was an atheist in high school, although unlike PS, I defined atheism as a positive statement - I believed that all religions are wrong. As I got older though I stopped identifying myself as an atheist, first saying that I was agnostic and later other things (there really is no term that applies perfectly to my religious beliefs). I still believe that all religions are wrong but I have since realized that all world views, beliefs, creeds, and philosophies are wrong but that they are all right as well and that the truth is that right and wrong are pretty much irrelevant when it comes to this question.

The correct word is reared, not raised.

It may be 'legitimate' but it's also totally trivial and pointless...

I'll leave the post there if you don't mind it staying, but I'd ask people not to respond further.

Originally Posted by Acid

edit: didnt see the last post regarding this. i think its stupid that youre deleting a legitimate argument regarding atheism. seems way too strict and its kind of annoying, but w/e. delete this post.

you do realize you can delete it yourself? -.-

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I still believe that all religions are wrong but I have since realized that all world views, beliefs, creeds, and philosophies are wrong but that they are all right as well and that the truth is that right and wrong are pretty much irrelevant when it comes to this question.

I don't understand this. They're all wrong, yet they're all right?

I was born in a Christian family. I was never an atheist yet I never saw religious practices as something holy or divine and never took it seriously, for me it was just culture even as a child. God was always beyond my thoughts and comprehension. Yet I cannot deny It's existence call it a delusion but I do not believe in god, I am conscious of it.